When I was in college, one of the ways the costume teacher made a medieval
dress was to have the actress lay down diagonally on the fabric, then trace
around her. It worked beautifully, making a great fitting bias cut dress.
Maybe the garment pictured was just cut on the bias out of straight-stripe
woven cloth. 

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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:51 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Opinions on Manesse Codex diagonal stripes

Hmm, I seem to have failed at the "paste" part of the process:

http://www.huscarl.at/wissenschaft02.php


On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Patricia Dunham wrote:

> umm, the link to an image didn't come across?? 
> 
> chimene
> 
> On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Heather Rose Jones wrote:
> 
>> With the caveats that artistic representations aren't always intended to
represent actual clothing construction, and that representations of clothing
decoration are sometimes intended to convey symbolism rather than fabric
structures, and that there are multiple ways to create any particular
decorative effect in fabric ...
>> 
>> What are people's thoughts on the garments depicted in the early 14th c.
Manesse Codex that have diagonal striped designs?  Woven as diagonal
stripes?  Print?  Woven as straight-grain stripes and cut on the bias?
Symbolic interpretation of armorial designs not intending to represent
actual garments?  Some other option?
>> 
>> How is a given hypothesis affected by other stripe-like designs in 
>> the manuscript?  (Primarily horizontal stripes, but also chevron 
>> designs.)
>> 
>> Here's a link to an image showing a variety of these designs, just for
reference.
>> 
>> I'm contemplating the plausibility of the bias cut hypothesis, but I'm
failing to convince myself, given that the reasoning that would support it
would also conclude that the diagonal-stripe and horizontal-stripe garments
in the manuscript represent two entirely different ways of cutting garments
that are otherwise identical in depiction.
>> 
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