Good evening Saragrace,

Thanks for that particular thought, though I've seen front gores on a lot of
diagrams for various garments.

Actually, the La Fleur pattern is split gores at all locations, front, back
& sides.  Interesting pattern...similar to many of the others out there,
both commercial and otherwise, and yet it has its differences.  My first
gown from it is just about done - just hand-stitching the trim.

And that trim is largely your doing Sg!  Since Southern, I've been always
watching out for lightweight fabrics that seemed likely candidates for
trimming simple gowns, like you have done on some of yours.  What a
difference, from plain, untrimmed gowns to nicely trimmed gowns, without the
time requirement for embroidery or any other technique...I may actually have
garb for Estrella!

The studio had gotten so bad - clippings and threads everywhere - I had to
vacuum this afternoon, in order to be able to continue sewing.  Made for a
nice regrouping session in the midst of this garb-building festival!

Laurie

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
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Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:30 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse
pattern-11th-12thCentury

Just a note, Dame Angele taught me that putting a gore in the front can
cause problems.   It can catch between your legs when walking.  In the end
all you need is fullness, so perhaps consider cutting only three gores and
putting them on the sides and back.

Sg

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Laurie Taylor
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Oops...meant to say 'indecisive'!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Laurie Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: 'Historical Costume'
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern
> -11th-12thCentury
>
> Thank you so much!  That really helps.  Just having someone else's
thoughts
> helps when I'm feeling so decisive, but the Greenland gowns thought is
> right
> on track...and just what I need.
>
> Nothing like trying to sew garb for an event with a deadline to chase away
> all thoughts of all the many things that I've seen and read!
>
> laurie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:53 PM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern -
> 11th-12thCentury
>
> Hi Laurie,
>
> I haven't made this pattern, and unfortunately it's not in my collection
to
> refer to. Based on my (admittedly limited) knowledge of clothing from that
> time,
> however, I think your first assumption is correct: the long gores go into
> the
> side seams, the short gores into CF and CB. I seem to recall some of the
> Greenland gowns where made that way.
>
>
>
> Claudine
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Laurie Taylor <[email protected]>
> > To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 7:43:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern -
> 11th-12th
> >Century
> >
> > I've been looking at this pattern some more, and I still can't decide
> what
> > the instructions mean.
> >
> > There are 4 body panels - two fronts, two  backs.  It has side seams and
> > seams up center front and center  back.
> >
> > There are 2 sets of gores.  One longer - to well above the  waist, or
> about 4
> > inches below the armscye, and one shorter, to about waist  level.  I'm
> > viewing them as from the hem up as the notches seem to work  that way.
> >
> > The instructions and the notches seem rather vague.  I'm  thinking that
> > probably the pairs of short gores go front/back and the long  gores go
to
> the
> > side seams - or vice versa - long gores front/back and short  gores to
> the
> > side seams.  There may be something that I'm missing, but I  can't
figure
> it
> > out.
> >
> > If anyone has used this pattern, I'd love to talk  to you!
> >
> > Laurie T.
> >
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