I think you're right about the dressage hat--very similar!  I also think it
resembles the John Bull hat from Gentleman's Emporium

Kim

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Lauren Walker
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:45 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Copper

I don't know -- looking at the 19th-century costume hatters, there are hats
they're calling "low derby" or "flat top derby" that look like  it;
http://www.ushist.com/19th-century_mens_hats_f.shtml
 it also looks like their "coachman" hats.
http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/000397.php?gclid=CPOTwuDJp7ICFUXf4Ao
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Most entertaining to me is that what it *really* looks like is a modern-day
women's dressage hat.
Dressage hat:
http://www.doversaddlery.com/wool-felt-dressage-hat-chrstys/p/X1-36035/

I get that it doesn't have the rounded crown of a modern-day derby or
bowler, but the 19th century versions were sometimes flat. 
It doesn't look tall enough to me to be a top hat, however. 

Lauren M. Walker
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