Hi,

Version 1.4.184 should produce smaller database files than previous version
(1.4.x - 1.4.182), maybe half or a third of the old file size. It would be
great to get some real-world results!

Regards,
Thomas



On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Thomas Mueller <[email protected]
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Some initial results: you can shrink the database by running "shutdown
> compact" or "shutdown defrag". Each time this is run, it shrinks a few MB
> (up to some point, of course). This works, but it's relatively slow. Now
> the task is to make it faster. There are two ways: shrink it fully to the
> minimum size, and shrink it incrementally (like now) but faster. I'm
> working on that now.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Steve McLeod <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> I've sent you a private email with a link to the new database file, made
>> with H2 1.4.178
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 5 May 2014 07:46:16 UTC+2, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The database file should shrink if you run "shutdown defrag".
>>>
>>> The current compact algorithm is quite inefficient, that means the
>>> databases file is quite big on average. The highest priority is still to
>>> ensure it always works correctly, and when that's done I will work on more
>>> efficiently re-using disk space and specially compact the file faster when
>>> closing the database.
>>>
>>> Could you send me the new database file? It would be nice to have a
>>> real-world database file to test this. The last file you sent helped a lot,
>>> thanks to it I found some problems that completely prevented the file to
>>> shrink.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 4, 2014, Steve McLeod <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> I tested the same large data import with H2 1.4.178, and there is no
>>>> improvement over H2 1.4.177.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the file sizes, in both cases after the app has stopped:
>>>>
>>>> H2 1.3.176: pokercopilot.h2.db  301,669,352  bytes
>>>> H2 1.4.178: pokercopilot.mv.db 1,023,037,440  bytes
>>>>
>>>> Let me know what I can do to help.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 19 April 2014 11:44:05 UTC+2, Steve McLeod wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> Great! Glad I could help make your superb product even better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 18 April 2014 21:38:27 UTC+2, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for the database! I know what the problem is now, but I
>>>> couldn't fix it yet. The database file (pokercopilot2.mv.db) has about 181
>>>> MB of "live" data, the rest (about 78%) is not used. The mechanism to get
>>>> rid of the unused space is not working as it should for this case (I think
>>>> the problem is that b-tree nodes are not processed correctly). This will be
>>>> fixed in the next release.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Steve McLeod <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> I've sent a link to file privately to your email address.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 18 April 2014 14:04:37 UTC+2, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Hm, that didn't help much. Could you send me the (compressed) database
>>>> files please? If it's too big, what is the compressed size of the files?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Steve McLeod <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the suggestion. I tried adding ";retention_time=1000" to
>>>> the URL, and this resulted in a small improvement.
>>>>
>>>> pokercopilot.h2.db  302,018,560  bytes
>>>> pokercopilot.mv.db 999,120,896  bytes
>>>> pokercopilot.mv.db with RETENTION_TIME=1000:  811,728,896 bytes
>>>>
>>>> These numbers all reflect a loading of data in a newly created database
>>>> that consisted of roughly 2,400,000 INSERTS and UPDATES with plenty of
>>>> SELECTS and almost no DELETES. After the loading was complete, I let the
>>>> application keep running with the database open for a few minutes, then
>>>> close the application and therefore the database.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the full JDBC url I'm using:
>>>> jdbc:h2:/Users/steve/Library/Application Support/com.barbarysoftware.po
>>>> kercopilot/database/pokercopilot;DATABASE_EVENT_LISTENER='co
>>>> m.barbarysoftware.pokercopilot.database.DatabaseListener';COMPRESS_
>>>> LOB=DEFLATE;CACHE_SIZE=65536;RETENTION_TIME=1000
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help diagnose this.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 17 April 2014 17:15:50 UTC+2, Thomas Muel
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