Chris Meller wrote:
> 
>     Mostly, I was referring to the admin color changes that occasionally
>     bounce their way into and out of the core code.  I believe that frequent
>     abuses of commit privileges like these that insight perpetual reverts
>     should be reviewed.
> 
> I recall one intentional color commit / revert and much discussion (on 
> -dev and not) about a number of people wanting to make the admin a 
> little less drab. I would hardly consider that a frequent abuse - in 
> fact it seems like exactly what you want to happen.

That's one example of a potential commit abuse, and it wasn't intended 
to incite discussion on the particular abuse.  I'm simply saying that 
when this type of thing happens, we should review it, and that I meant 
the review to address that type of infraction, not the reverting of 
code, which you seemed to infer from my last message.

> 
> And I could go through all your commits and find tons of examples of 
> things I don't agree with. 

Yes.  Though none of the instances you disagree with would be a direct 
retraction of exclusively code that another committer had contributed in 
a single commit.

I think that's the hinge of the argument.  You see reverts as the same 
as commits.  Technically, I suppose that's the case.  But there is a 
simple social difference that people will perceive -- that the submitted 
code or idea was deemed unsuitable and removed in a revert, not that it 
was revised or improved with an additional commit or even discussed with 
peers.  In common words, "You suck, and I've removed your code."


Anyway, this is tedious.  I'm not arguing point-by-point with you 
because it seems you'll disagree even if just out of spite at this 
point, and in the end the details of individual reverts don't address 
the salient issue.  If you want to point at a waste of time, that 
argument is it.


I asked for something simple - an email to -dev whenever anyone reverts 
a commit - and your impression of it wasting your time leads you to this 
grand rally against the idea and a defense of things I didn't even 
complain about.

For all of your talk of the benefit of the community the lack of 
yielding to this simple, infrequently applied request, which offers 
little demonstrable harm and reasonable potential benefit, indicates to 
me that your avoidance of it isn't borne of community benefit.

Anyway, feel free to continue not to provide any reference to discussion 
regarding your future reverts.  I will continue to infer in those cases 
that you decided to revert on your own cognition with no other community 
involvement.

Owen



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