On 1/17/2013 7:10 PM, Les Henderson wrote:
I hope that taking the time and effort to generate an easily searchable
and categorized forum for such queries using edited conversations from
here isn't considered theft of intellectual property or stepping on
toes. I certainly endeavor to give credit where due.
Here's what this particular conversation has produced, so that future or
past related queries can be added to it and hopefully relieve devs from
having to answer it again too many times. Next time you could just
provide a link.
While I appreciate the effort, this particular issue exemplifies the
reasons why I think this is a waste of time.
If you search for "habari password recovery" on Google (words from the
title of your post on mybb), the link to the thread in habari-users is
the third link on the first page, which is preceded only by other
official Habari resources on similar topics:
http://screencast.com/t/KrGWBuXTaRy
This is pretty good for a thread that started yesterday. This is also
from a clean, cookie-free browser, so it's not tainted by my own search
preferences.
If a user goes to that page, which is an official Habari resource, not
only can they read the solution, but their replies are guaranteed to be
read by other project members. Content copied to an external bulletin
board is not the same thing.
Moreover, there's a hidden implication to the bulletin board that the
documentation there is complete. It is not. This user was asking
specifically for help for an edge case. Most users with their PHP's
email properly configured can use the password reset functionality built
into Habari with no trouble. This is apparent from the documentation
available on habariproject.org, where the habari-users mailing list is a
supplemental solution to documentation. It is not apparent that there
is any other solution on the habarians.com bulletic board.
When visiting the site the Google group is searchable, using the full
power of Google's search algorithms, and has literally years of historic
data. I'm unsure that an external source of support would offer the same.
When the thoughts above are combined with prior implications of
monetization, the whole 3rd-party bulletin board idea leaves a foul
taste. I won't (can't) stop you if you're motivated to do it, but I
think working with the community to produce better, curated
documentation on Habari Project resources would be a better use of your
time and the time of others who might want to collaborate on this
important issue. Tacking a link to an external bulletin board on the
end of every thread seems spammy to me, and I suspect it will get old
quickly.
You've made many good points on other threads about the promotion of
Habari for new users, but I'm now even move convinced than I've ever
been that a bulletin board that reposts things from the mailing list is
the wrong solution. I hope we can all work together to come up with a
better one.
Owen
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