On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 06:43:39PM -0400, Zack Rosen wrote:
> > a4d is *a* network. It's using tools developed by, for lack of a 
> > better
> > name to clarify the point: hackers4democracy.
> 
> Yes, we expect the tools we are creating to be used and extended far
> beyond this campaign.  The distinction and roles between A4D H4D and DFA
> have been blurred since they have originally been decided, which is why
> I have been avoiding trying to specify them - because right now it is a
> little up in the air.  Hopefully after the meeting tonight we will have
> a much clearer picture. (#hack4dean irc.freenode.org 8:30 PM EST).

I'll be there, with bits on.

> I think the Lessig thing went well.  I think it was messy and it made
> history. It was more than worth it if not only for the fact that now
> Dean is drawing up a policy on contemporary IP issues - a first as far
> as I can tell and very dear to my heart. 

And drawing fire.  That wasn't necessary.  I suppose, as long as they spell
his name right, but still...

>  "*inspired* by the Dean candidacy... as one specifically *for* DFA" : I
> would agree with this observation, but to each his own.  
> 
> > And I think the organization needs to reflect that.
> 
> What organization? :p

Indeed.

I'll clarify more if necessary, on IRC, but mostly just: separate the
creation of the toolset (and the organization doing that) from the
organization *employing* the toolset.  The latter has to deal with legal
crap; the former doesn't.

Cheers,
-- jra
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