On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Ka-Ping Yee wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, zachary rosen wrote:
> > Doing the aggregation / syndication stuff as NNTP doesn't make much sense
> > to me.  We are creating a web app, it should use web protocols. RSS is
> > perfect for this kind of things.  It forces us to create the network to be
> > far simpler and open than if we did it with NNTP - and that is a very good
> > thing.
>
> I didn't mean to start off such a big thread.  But lot of the debate
> seems to miss the point, to me -- i wasn't arguing (or even suggesting!)
> that we should drop what we're doing and run NNTP servers instead.
>
> I was trying to call attention in the *transport* (NNTP), not the *format*
> (RFC822).  Of course metadata and structure are useful.  Let's not throw
> that away,  All i'm saying is that we can look to NNTP for inspiration
> when we design our transport, since it was a fairly reliable and successful
> way to spread content around.
>
> And let's face it, folks: we *are* designing a transport.  HTTP polling is
> not the whole picture.  It can't be.  There are still open questions about
> caching and fetching articles selectively.

I agree completly Ping - this is very good advice.

> Jay made an important point with respect to RSS:
>
> > Precisely -- and it sounded to me like people were talking about syndicating
> > *the user comments themselves* -- for which is it manifestly not suitable.
>
> For better or worse, NNTP succeeded at that.
>
> Of course we can decide we're not going to do that kind of syndication,
> and set the issue aside.  But let's *know* that we are making that
> decision when we make it.

Yes and yes.  I am all for looking at NNTP for inspiration / experience,
and all for knowing the scope of what we are building.  I am just against
using NNTP over RSS.

-Zack

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