AFAIK Red Hat is a registered trademark in Israel. You can ceck it online at
http://patentim.justice.gov.il/db1.htm (Trying to do just that I got a
"Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'"  :-)

Red Hat's policy regarding the use of its trademarks is available online at
http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/page4.html
http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/page5.html
http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/page6.html

If you want to avoid reading the whole text (even though it's clear and
simple to my opinion), go directly to the FAQs at
http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/page7.html

Highlights from the previous pages:

" Red Hat� is a registered trademark of Red Hat, Inc. and may be used only
with Red Hat Inc.'s express written permission. You may not use "Red Hat" or
any confusingly similar mark as a trademark for your product, or use "Red
Hat" in any other manner that might cause confusion in the marketplace,
including in advertising, on auction sites, or on software or hardware. The
only way to obtain permission to use Red Hat's trademark is by entering into
a written license agreement with Red Hat, Inc., signed by both Red Hat and
the licensee "

...

 B. You may not name or brand your product "Red Hat Linux," "Red Hat
Enterprise Linux," or use the Red Hat trademarks in any way, either on your
product or in advertising. You must use a different trademark for your
product that will not cause confusion with the trademarks of Red Hat or
another party, will not indicate or imply that your product originates from
or is sponsored or approved by Red Hat, and which otherwise complies with
applicable trademark laws. Please also refer to the guidelines for use of
the brand "Red Hat" and for plays on the words "Red Hat."
C. You may not state that your product "contains Red Hat Linux X.X." or "Red
Hat Enterprise Linux X.X." This would amount to impermissible use of Red
Hat's trademarks. You may resell the boxed version of your software that you
purchased from Red Hat so long as you sell the original discs and
documentation included with the boxed version. However, if you have
registered the product with Red Hat for purposes of obtaining support
services, you may not transfer your right in those support services, and you
must advise the purchaser that they are not receiving support services.

D. You must modify the files identified as REDHAT-LOGOS and ANACONDA-IMAGES
so as to remove all use of images containing the "Red Hat" trademark or Red
Hat's Shadow Man logo. Note that mere deletion of these files may corrupt
the software.

I don't think it leaves any open qustions: you should avoid using the Red
Hat trademarks both on the CD covers and in the Software conatined in it -
or take a good attorney :-)



Haim

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Shachar Shemesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orna Agmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Alon Altman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Haifux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Haifux] CD logos


> Orna Agmon wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alon Altman wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>  The CD designs for the Linux day are available at
> >>http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/cd-logo/
> >>
> >>  Alon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Very pretty. I like the updates design more, though. But- what about RH
> >wishing people to avoid the usage of the trademark RedHat when
> >re-distributing it?
> >
> Tux's red hat may be seen to infringe. As far as I understood, however,
> they don't own any relevant trademarks in Israel. IANAL etc.
>
> I'll forward this to Haim to check.
>
> > Is this thing already in order?
> >Or does this relate only to the Enterprise edition?
> >
> >
> It relates, as far as RH are concerned, to anything under the sun that
> even remotely resembels their distro. Whether that is actually
> enforecable is a different matter.
>
> Personally, I don't mind keeping things in the grey area (where our
> understanding of trademark law says wer'e ok to do it, while their
> guidelines say wer'e not) just so we can see whether they will sue.
>
> My limited understanding of trademark law says that the art for discs 1
> through 3 should be ok, because we are truthfully giving them unmodified
> RedHat 9 discs (and therefor RH cannot legally stop us from claiming
> that they are RH 9 discs). The use of the red hat on the update disc may
> be outside this scope, because it was compiled by us.
>
> >Orna.
> >
> >
>              Shachar
>
> -- 
> Shachar Shemesh
> Open Source integration consultant
> Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/
>
>
>


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