Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the academic world it is customary to put your work on-line. > > If someone want to use it, they must (must as in "they really should do > so, and if they don't their papers might be rejected until they give > citation") cite you. > > When you put something on the web, you hold the copyrights. This means > that you explicitly allow everybody to see it, but no one to use it > without prior consent.
That is the point that I believe has not been tested yet. When I read a book or look at a sign in the street I "see" it. When I open a page with my Web browser I am making a copy. Sometimes a Web browser will make a local semi-permanent copy in its own cache without even asking the user. The important point in my opinion is that when a copy is made (and you can be sure that it will be made), that copy will not have any separate value independent of the value of the original. > Putting a sotware on the web, doesn't mean everybody could use it. They > are all welcome to see what you do (for example, if they need to trace a > format of a file), but they are not allowed to use that code without your > consent. > > Once you GPL (X11, BSD, ...) your code, you maintain the ownership of what > you did, and allow a fair usage of your work. The same goes for documents. > > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Yoni Rabkin Katzenell wrote: > >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm going out on a limb and saying what is >> on my mind. No need to get offended, I'm just another non-lawyer playing >> the "this is legal and that is not" game with you all. >> >> Let us say that I have a work that is publicly displayed with no >> license. I find out that someone has copied my work. Can I now call that >> person up and tell him/her that I had a license all along but kept it >> "Hidden" and now I want that person to abide by that license or be sued? >> >> I don't know that answer to the above, it is really a question, not a >> sarcastic remark. >> >> I think that anyone who has put work on the net with no license text >> what so ever has lost that work because that person has shown that >> he/she has no interest to *diligently* and *aggressively* protect that >> work. Beyond that, who is willing to say that they *really* understand >> the license that they use for text (not code) or have had a lawyer look >> at it and explain it to them. Guessing will get you killed in court. >> >> Let me continue to say that if a Bulgarian copies a lecture that had no >> license displayed in any way. The only way that individual can get sued >> is if the copyright holder (that just woke up all of the sudden and >> decided to be a copyright holder) sues the Bulgarian. >> >> So what follows is, if no-one is prepared to sue them, why the trouble? >> If you put a license on your work then you need to be prepared to defend >> it. Anyone thinking of taking a Bulgarian to court over a lecture slide? >> If not, then you lose the copyright anyway because you fail to defend it >> *aggressively*. >> >> Lastly: In my opinion the lectures are already copied and copied >> again. This is a good thing. Remember stories of hackers just passing >> someone's screen and thinking "that's cool, I'll use that". Now we >> license first and share later. Why are you collecting "Haifux >> Intellectual Property", will Haifux really sue? >> >> All that said. Deep breath, relaxation. I'm deeply interested in the way >> people see these issues but I realise I go about it a bit heavy handed. >> >> A plain Haifux license that everyone understands and that >> has been approved by a real lawyer should reside over *all* works and >> one (and only one) person or body should enforce it. Otherwise you will >> have a group people that are all not lawyers, all guessing and arguing >> about "license this and license that" while the Bulgarians have "Save >> As..."ed all of Haifux long ago. >> >> > > -- > Orr Dunkelman, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Any human thing supposed to be complete, must for that reason infallibly > be faulty" -- Herman Melville, Moby Dick. > > Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) > To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice" Regards, Yoni Rabkin Katzenell -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
