On Friday 24 March 2006 19:04, Gabi Kliot wrote:
> Hi
>
> I definitely agree with you that the new blood for Haifux can come from CS
> students. Matam is a good target and given the support of the TA in charge
> there, you can definitely publish more lectures there and attract more
> students.
I should note that you should also try publishing the presentations in the
courses of other departments besides Computer Science that cover identical or
similar topics. I know there are CS-related courses also in the Electrical
Engineering and Industrial Engineering departments, so you should approach
them as well.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
>
> Yet, I think that the main target for newcomers for the club should be OS
> course graduates. Guys - it seems that the club is not aware of the fact
> the OS course does not teach XINU any longer. The Haifux has made (for my
> opinion) no special attempts to address those students. Yet, those are
> usually forth, fifth semester students, much more mature and ready to learn
> new stuff. In the OS course we do not get enough chances to teach them
> Linux from the user perspective. We concentrate mainly on kernel. At the
> end of the course those students have a very decent knowledge at the kernel
> level and they are not "afraid of Linux" any more. This is your chance to
> "convert" them to Linux.
>
> The lectures can be specifically targeted to those students: Muli's lecture
> on writing device drivers, Advanced Socket Programming, administration,
> Development Tools for Linux. Tools like strace, Valgrind, ... Some of those
> lectures would be actually worth giving during the semester, giving the
> students those additional tools, while they are deep "inside" the business,
> working on Linux. This is the point in time when those students need this
> additional knowledge the most and this is where they can be attracted. We
> can not teach all this stuff at the tutorials, since we just haven't got
> enough time for that.
>
> I mean - look at it: ~100 students graduate EXTREMELY advanced course on
> Linux each semester, yet almost none of them joins the club. Something is
> fishy here, don't you think?
>
> And I am sure Haifux will get the full support of the course TAs and the
> lecturer.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gabi Kliot
>
> Quoting Eli Billauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Ohad Lutzky wrote:
> > >I know that for Matam (and this extends to Data Structures), the
> > >answer is "programming comfortably in a Unix environment". In the
> > >Matam course, Makefiles are barely mentioned.
> >
> > So if we're talking about the "Programming C in Linux survival guide",
> > what subjects are hot?
> >
> > I would suggest:
> > 1. Convenient multi-file C programming (C files, their header files,
> > etc.) 2. Compiling and linking with gcc & make (basic things, like I
> > actually do when I develop my own small things)
> > 3. Common flags (-m, -Dsomething, -I, -g, -Wall)
> > 4. The ddd graphic debugger
> > 5. Valgrind
> >
> > Would this make a hit? Anything else worth covering?
> >
> > Eli
> >
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> >
> >
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