Chepi -

I think almost everyone on this list would love to lend a hand when you have
questions.
But to keep this particular list focused on haml itself, perhaps you should
create a separate google group 'haml_tutorial' for conversations specific to
the development of your site.  My thinking is that you could recruit help
from the haml-dev list, but keep the bulk of the traffic out of the way of
the development forum.  I bet participant motivation would be maximized by
keeping the visible-results momentum high as your site gets built.

When you come across places where you think a feature addition, or more
clear error message would help, post the suggestions back here to get batted
around.  Feature changes are another story, as a lot existing code relies on
current behavior.

- Randy

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Nathan Weizenbaum <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've heard from several people that the Haml and Sass indentation rules
> seem confusing. Since my head is buried in the code, though, it's hard for
> me to tell why this is, how to fix it, or how to better document it. If you
> want to take on the documentation, and hopefully teach me something in the
> process, that would be absolutely fantastic. I would be happy to tell you
> anything you need to know about how the indentation works and why.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Enrique Gimenez 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Moving on to a -slightly- more serious topic, I want to share some of my
>> experience with haml so far.
>>
>> I'm quite new to this, and stumbled across this lovely code searching for
>> tools for static website generation, with Mr. Catlin here referring me to
>> StaticMatic back then (like a month ago).
>>
>> Besides thoughts on programmatic use || pure, live, as-template use
>> (topics which will undoubtedly raise hell given mes inclinations
>> pythonesques) I want to make a point of the following:
>>
>> - In spite of haml being almost ridiculously _simple_, I'm having a *hard
>> time* following any actual learning *curve*, beyond the initial 20-min tut.
>> Case: Indenting enforcement of unknown cause. I keep searching the docs for
>> an authoritative reference on indenting rules, since they are so implacably
>> enforced, but to no avail.
>>
>> Dunno, I just feel this sensation, of being expected to know something
>> else beforehand, but without knowing exactly *what*. And it's not very
>> encouraging when taking on learning a new skill...
>>
>> Maybe I'm too much of a noob and not even the target audience, but to me
>> this signals a field for improvement. I'm talking from the "Hello!, I know
>> HTML & CSS and this Haml&Sass thingy looks sexy! Me wants more..." point of
>> view. Not your average rubyist/railmaster, so maybe a "for dummies" kinda
>> intro turns out useful.
>>
>> # Bottom Line:
>>
>> I happen to have the skills required to "translate" pretty much any dark
>> body of knowledge into easy-to-follow info, so I want to volunteer for
>> developing a "Learning Haml&Sass" kit/section/corpus. Gonna need the
>> consulting help of the really savvy though, so please raise your hands if
>> you'd be willing to participate. Mail-replying will most likely be the
>> interface of choice...
>>
>> So let me know. If I can get two or more people to assist me in dissecting
>> the beast, I'll kickstart this and plan for maybe 3 months till completion
>> of a comprehensive, noob-proof knowledge repository.
>>
>> And yeah, damn those caches! I'm sure IE6 survives only by lurking in the
>> caches of internet history...
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Chepi
>>
>> PS: No, English is not my mother tongue, so that's why I write funny... =P
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Hampton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Damn those caches!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Enrique Gimenez <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It sure does now!
>>>>
>>>> Bad cache... no cookie for you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Nathan Weizenbaum 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you sure? It says 2.2.4 for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Enrique Gimenez <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just in case...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://haml-lang.com/  <- still shows 2.2.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chepi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Enrique Gimenez <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got caught in the middle of the git gem upgrade last night, lol!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Nathan!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Nathan Weizenbaum <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I released version 2.2.4 of Haml and Sass a couple nights ago and
>>>>>>>> forgot to announce it... so consider this your official announcement! 
>>>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>> always, release notes are up at
>>>>>>>> http://haml-lang.com/docs/yardoc/HAML_CHANGELOG.md.html and
>>>>>>>> http://sass-lang.com/docs/yardoc/SASS_CHANGELOG.md.html. Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Nathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


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