Everyone:

Since we so rapidly passed the 2+ involvement requirement, and taking the
sensible recommendation from Randy, I created the haml-training
group<http://groups.google.com/group/haml-training>and mailing list @
Google Groups. So, consider this initiative started. I
went for "training" since "tutorial" kinda limits itself and "education" is
way too pompous.

@Nathan: I used to be a copywriter, and of course your head is always
involved in something absolutely invisible for the rest of us. Here to help!
Get ready for the questions though... =)

@Norman: You are so in for proofreading! And of course, anything else you
want to get your hands dirty in. Thanks mate!

@Hampton: Finish moving and joing the fun!


Also, promoting the group -within reason- will be appreciated too!

Possible language barrier disclaimer: I'm a spanish native speaker, so
please keep that in mind when reading or performing any other kind of
text-based collaboration.

Thanks everyone, hope to help.

Best,


Chepi

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Norman Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hey Enrique,
>
> I'd be happy to help try to answer any questions you have, and can
> also proofread for you if you want. I think the kind of tutorial
> you're talking about would be useful.
>
> I assuming from your name (perhaps incorrectly though) that you speak
> Spanish; if that's the case you can ask me questions off-list in
> Spanish if you want if that's more convenient for you. That said, your
> English isn't funny at all. I assumed you were a native speaker,
> because really you write perfectly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Norman
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Enrique Gimenez
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Moving on to a -slightly- more serious topic, I want to share some of my
> > experience with haml so far.
> >
> > I'm quite new to this, and stumbled across this lovely code searching for
> > tools for static website generation, with Mr. Catlin here referring me to
> > StaticMatic back then (like a month ago).
> >
> > Besides thoughts on programmatic use || pure, live, as-template use
> (topics
> > which will undoubtedly raise hell given mes inclinations pythonesques) I
> > want to make a point of the following:
> >
> > - In spite of haml being almost ridiculously _simple_, I'm having a *hard
> > time* following any actual learning *curve*, beyond the initial 20-min
> tut.
> > Case: Indenting enforcement of unknown cause. I keep searching the docs
> for
> > an authoritative reference on indenting rules, since they are so
> implacably
> > enforced, but to no avail.
> >
> > Dunno, I just feel this sensation, of being expected to know something
> else
> > beforehand, but without knowing exactly *what*. And it's not very
> > encouraging when taking on learning a new skill...
> >
> > Maybe I'm too much of a noob and not even the target audience, but to me
> > this signals a field for improvement. I'm talking from the "Hello!, I
> know
> > HTML & CSS and this Haml&Sass thingy looks sexy! Me wants more..." point
> of
> > view. Not your average rubyist/railmaster, so maybe a "for dummies" kinda
> > intro turns out useful.
> >
> > # Bottom Line:
> >
> > I happen to have the skills required to "translate" pretty much any dark
> > body of knowledge into easy-to-follow info, so I want to volunteer for
> > developing a "Learning Haml&Sass" kit/section/corpus. Gonna need the
> > consulting help of the really savvy though, so please raise your hands if
> > you'd be willing to participate. Mail-replying will most likely be the
> > interface of choice...
> >
> > So let me know. If I can get two or more people to assist me in
> dissecting
> > the beast, I'll kickstart this and plan for maybe 3 months till
> completion
> > of a comprehensive, noob-proof knowledge repository.
> >
> > And yeah, damn those caches! I'm sure IE6 survives only by lurking in the
> > caches of internet history...
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > Chepi
> >
> > PS: No, English is not my mother tongue, so that's why I write funny...
> =P
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Hampton <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Damn those caches!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Enrique Gimenez <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It sure does now!
> >>>
> >>> Bad cache... no cookie for you!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Nathan Weizenbaum <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you sure? It says 2.2.4 for me.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Enrique Gimenez
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just in case...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://haml-lang.com/  <- still shows 2.2.3
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> chepi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Enrique Gimenez
> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Got caught in the middle of the git gem upgrade last night, lol!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Nathan!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Nathan Weizenbaum <
> [email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I released version 2.2.4 of Haml and Sass a couple nights ago and
> >>>>>>> forgot to announce it... so consider this your official
> announcement! As
> >>>>>>> always, release notes are up at
> >>>>>>> http://haml-lang.com/docs/yardoc/HAML_CHANGELOG.md.html and
> >>>>>>> http://sass-lang.com/docs/yardoc/SASS_CHANGELOG.md.html. Enjoy!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Nathan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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