Hi guys, Late as well! Time zones I guess...
Actually, I feel kinda responsible for this. Months ago I wrote to the group with a similar (though less funny) story. I too felt that the docs had too many non-explicit prerequisites to be read *and understood* properly. So I volunteered to improve the UX aspect of the documentation, or so to speak. I then created the "Haml Training Group" list, and began sketching, but abandoned the project almost immediately due to very impelling personal reasons. Sorry about that, DogBot! I'm pretty sure that you would have suffered a lot less had I followed thru. And thanks for your email! It shows the need is still there. So I pledge to pick up the work in February... My apologies and appreciation to all of you, Chepi @charlesroper: Great links! Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Charles Roper <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm a bit late to the party here. This has been a fascinating thread > and a great insight into a user's first-time experience with both Ruby > and Haml/Sass/Compass. DogBot, I found your original post a genuine > laugh out loud read. I think we've all felt like that over the years. > I remember trying to work out how to build a form mailer way back in > the mid-90's. I'd barely grasped HTML and there I was faced with this > mishmash of complex sounding weirdness such as "CGI", "Sendmail", > "Perl", "Server Site Scripting"... Ah, I remember the pain well. It > took a while, but I got the hang of most of it in the end (not Perl, > mind; I ended up using ASP classic, because I found that I was on a > Windows server, not Unix.) > > So anyway, I'd just like to confirm here that Haml/Sass/Compass and > the vast majority of other Ruby tools run absolutely fine on Windows. > There is a tendency within the Ruby community to assume a user is on > *nix or Mac; it's definitely a scene dominated by non-Windows > platforms. But, despite that bias, Ruby works extremely well on > Windows, particularly with the new RubyInstaller (see below). You just > have to remember to ignore "sudo" when you're confronted with a > command like "sudo gem install haml". FYI, sudo is somewhat akin to > triggering UAC on Vista/Windows 7; however, you don't need to have > admin privileges to install gems on Windows and therefore you can just > run "gem install haml" from the command line. > > I help out with the RubyInstaller project, which aims to provide an > easy-to-use and intuitive installer for Ruby on Windows and also > improve compatibility. Unfortunately, it's not had a major public > release yet. Here's the temporary website: > > http://rubyinstaller.org/ > > You may have already used the RubyInstaller, but if you haven't I'd > encourage you to try it. It comes with Ruby itself, plus some > documentation and a shortcut to the command line you need to run in > order to 'access' Ruby. There's also an equally friendly mailing list > (linked on the site). Questions specific to Ruby on Windows are always > welcomed there, and we especially welcome feedback on the whole > RubyInstaller experience. > > Just be sure to stick to version 1.8 for now. Version 1.9 still has > many gems that don't work, so it's best to avoid that for the time > being, unless you really know you need it. > > Regarding editors for Ruby on Windows, I recommend E Text Editor or > Notepad++. E is particularly good for working with Sass/Compass/Haml > because it has syntax highlighting (called Bundles) you can easily > download from within the application. > > http://e-texteditor.com/ > http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/ > > If you want something with more bells and whistles, I've heard good > things about RubyMine: > > http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/ > > The nice thing about RubyMine is that Sass support is built in, so I > think you can just install it and get going. > > Give me a shout if you need any further Windows specific help. :) > > Charles > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Haml" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] <haml%[email protected]>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/haml?hl=en. > > > >--
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