@Hampton, a GUI would be really nice!

Related: did you happen to see the Rendera project someone put up on Heroku?
It lets a user play with Haml and Sass right in their web browser and see
the results pretty quickly.

http://rendera.heroku.com/


-- Amy



On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Hampton <[email protected]> wrote:

> Guess what people?
>
> After this message, I have spent the entire day (its GMT here.. so its
> evening)
> making a GUI for Sass for people who don't want to deal with Ruby.
>
> And... its FREAKING WORKING.
>
> Check out the screen shot:
> http://img.skitch.com/20100119-eg56b6k9283971k26nkricg3uc.png
>
> It needs more tweaking... but I can basically only blow today on it. Aka,
> I'm
> taking patches from forks!
>
> Its split between JS and Ruby and HTML. So, yeah... good skills to have.
>
> Built off Appcelerator and so you can go grab that if you want to play with
> it.
>
> It polls every second right now in all of the directories that you have
> added
> and looks for changes.
>
> Stuff to do:
>
> * Store the folders so that if you close the app, they will come back
> * Improve the growl messages
> * Fix the crash that happens with two folders
> * Give a decent notice when the sass file doesn't compile correctly.
>
> The "Update" button is just there for people who are debugging stuff
> and want to *know* it got updated.
>
> Git link:
> http://github.com/hcatlin/sass
>
> ENJOY!
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Enrique Gimenez 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Late as well! Time zones I guess...
>>
>> Actually, I feel kinda responsible for this. Months ago I wrote to the
>> group with a similar (though less funny) story. I too felt that the docs had
>> too many non-explicit prerequisites to be read *and understood* properly.
>> So I volunteered to improve the UX aspect of the documentation, or so to
>> speak.
>> I then created the "Haml Training Group" list, and began sketching, but
>> abandoned the project almost immediately due to very impelling personal
>> reasons. Sorry about that, DogBot! I'm pretty sure that you would have
>> suffered a lot less had I followed thru.
>>
>> And thanks for your email! It shows the need is still there. So I pledge
>> to pick up the work in February...
>>
>> My apologies and appreciation to all of you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chepi
>>
>> @charlesroper: Great links!
>>
>>
>> Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Charles Roper 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a bit late to the party here. This has been a fascinating thread
>>> and a great insight into a user's first-time experience with both Ruby
>>> and Haml/Sass/Compass. DogBot, I found your original post a genuine
>>> laugh out loud read. I think we've all felt like that over the years.
>>> I remember trying to work out how to build a form mailer way back in
>>> the mid-90's. I'd barely grasped HTML and there I was faced with this
>>> mishmash of complex sounding weirdness such as "CGI", "Sendmail",
>>> "Perl", "Server Site Scripting"... Ah, I remember the pain well. It
>>> took a while, but I got the hang of most of it in the end (not Perl,
>>> mind; I ended up using ASP classic, because I found that I was on a
>>> Windows server, not Unix.)
>>>
>>> So anyway, I'd just like to confirm here that Haml/Sass/Compass and
>>> the vast majority of other Ruby tools run absolutely fine on Windows.
>>> There is a tendency within the Ruby community to assume a user is on
>>> *nix or Mac; it's definitely a scene dominated by non-Windows
>>> platforms. But, despite that bias, Ruby works extremely well on
>>> Windows, particularly with the new RubyInstaller (see below). You just
>>> have to remember to ignore "sudo" when you're confronted with a
>>> command like "sudo gem install haml". FYI, sudo is somewhat akin to
>>> triggering UAC on Vista/Windows 7; however, you don't need to have
>>> admin privileges to install gems on Windows and therefore you can just
>>> run "gem install haml" from the command line.
>>>
>>> I help out with the RubyInstaller project, which aims to provide an
>>> easy-to-use and intuitive installer for Ruby on Windows and also
>>> improve compatibility. Unfortunately, it's not had a major public
>>> release yet. Here's the temporary website:
>>>
>>> http://rubyinstaller.org/
>>>
>>> You may have already used the RubyInstaller, but if you haven't I'd
>>> encourage you to try it. It comes with Ruby itself, plus some
>>> documentation and a shortcut to the command line you need to run in
>>> order to 'access' Ruby. There's also an equally friendly mailing list
>>> (linked on the site). Questions specific to Ruby on Windows are always
>>> welcomed there, and we especially welcome feedback on the whole
>>> RubyInstaller experience.
>>>
>>> Just be sure to stick to version 1.8 for now. Version 1.9 still has
>>> many gems that don't work, so it's best to avoid that for the time
>>> being, unless you really know you need it.
>>>
>>> Regarding editors for Ruby on Windows, I recommend E Text Editor or
>>> Notepad++. E is particularly good for working with Sass/Compass/Haml
>>> because it has syntax highlighting (called Bundles) you can easily
>>> download from within the application.
>>>
>>> http://e-texteditor.com/
>>> http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> If you want something with more bells and whistles, I've heard good
>>> things about RubyMine:
>>>
>>> http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/
>>>
>>> The nice thing about RubyMine is that Sass support is built in, so I
>>> think you can just install it and get going.
>>>
>>> Give me a shout if you need any further Windows specific help. :)
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
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