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>   1. Re: [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP
>      (Le Quoc Thai)
>   2. Re: [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP
>      (David Tremblay)
>   3. H?i th?ng tin, (chi nguyen lam)
>   4. Re: H?i th?ng tin, (Hai V. Nguyen)
>   5. Re: security comparison Mac OS X, Vista SP1,      Ubuntu 7.10 was
>      Re: HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 32 (NAHieu)
>   6. Re: H?i th?ng tin, (Jean Christophe Andr?)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Le Quoc Thai" <lqthai at gmail.com>
> To: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:35:02 +0700
> Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP
> Hi Lars,
>
> 2008/3/31, Lars Adermalm <lars.adermalm at gmail.com>:
> >
> >  Hi Hai and Ivan,
> >
> > - Finally a question rather than a suggestion.  I  read/interpret the
> > slogan "ubuntu - linux for human beings" as "ubuntu, contrary to other
> > versions of linux, does not require expert computer skills and can be used
> > by anybody that can use a PC with other operating systems, i.e. any human
> > being". "Loai nguoi" I interpret more like "the humanity". If my
> > interpretation of the intentions of the Canonical is correct, then perhaps
> > "linux cho moi nguoi" or something the like would be a better 
> > translation.:-\
> >
> > Good luck / Lars
> >
>
> I share the same with you to translate "Ubuntu - linux for human beings"
> as "Linux cho m?i ng??i".
>
> Thai L.Q.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Tremblay <david at ngowiki.net>
> To: Hanoi Linux Users Group <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:36:31 +0700
> Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP
> Le lundi 31 mars 2008 ? 22:27 +0700, Lars Adermalm a ?crit :
> > Hi Hai and Ivan,
> >
> > Looks great. Just a few suggestions.
>
> Looks great yes, I love the new artwork
>
> > - But more importantly I feel that the bottom text carries the wrong
> > message and needs a careful review. "It is provided without any
> > warranty, without even the implied warranty of merchantability or
> > fitness for a particular purpose" now reads something like "This
> > programme is provided without any guarantee and may not be used for
> > commercial or other purposes" :-\
>
> Everybody should knows that Linux can be use for commercial purpose : I
> suggest to say :
>
> ?"It is provided without any warranty, without even the implied warranty
> of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose"
> "This mean that you can use it for any purpose you want, including money
> making, but don't expect any guarantee"
>
>
> > - Finally a question rather than a suggestion.  I  read/interpret the
> > slogan "ubuntu - linux for human beings" as "ubuntu, contrary to other
> > versions of linux, does not require expert computer skills and can be
> > used by anybody that can use a PC with other operating systems, i.e.
> > any human being". "Loai nguoi" I interpret more like "the humanity".
> > If my interpretation of the intentions of the Canonical is correct,
> > then perhaps "linux cho moi nguoi" or something the like would be a
> > better translation. :-\
>
> I think they really meant "for humanity". Quite pretentious  I admit.
>
> I also like Linux for everybody, it's up to you...
>
>
> >
> > Good luck / Lars
> >
> > Hai Nguyen Thanh wrote:
> > > Hi Ivan,
> > >
> > > I just updated Vietnamese text for the cover, attached
> > > is JPG file for preview.
> > >
> > > I read the translated text, mostly it's OK to me and
> > > understandable. However there are some words that I
> > > feel need to discuss, as translated IT English into
> > > Vietnamese is not easy. I modified the text a bit, not
> > > change the whole meaning, just made it understandable
> > > and sound "Vietnamese" :). If possible, please ask
> > > Onishidato about my changes and let me know his
> > > opinion. Also everybody in the loop please have a look
> > > at the text and let me know if I need to change any
> > > thing, all opinions are welcome :)
> > >
> > > Secondly, that PSD file used MyriadProWeb font which I
> > > don't have, then I use a similar Myriad Web font for
> > > Vietnamese version, I hope it won't make to much
> > > different.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps
> > >
> > > Hai
> > >
> > > P/S: I'm Fedora's fan :)
> > >
> > > --- Ivan Garcia <capiscuas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Take a look to this artwork to create covers for the
> > > > CD/DVD of next version
> > > > of Ubuntu.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/DVD_Cover_(Fela_Kuti_Chocolate)#head-3d68dd82b0571e9c097e1b123feb8369ce8bd8a8<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/DVD_Cover_%28Fela_Kuti_Chocolate%29#head-3d68dd82b0571e9c097e1b123feb8369ce8bd8a8>
> <
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/DVD_Cover_%28Fela_Kuti_Chocolate%29#head-3d68dd82b0571e9c097e1b123feb8369ce8bd8a8
> >
> > >
> > > > They have created a photoshop file (PSD) here
> > > > http://www.filefactory.com/file/c677b2/ . (they say
> > > > it's not compatible with
> > > > GIMP thought).
> > > >
> > > > My friend Onishidato in HCMC has translated the
> > > > english text into
> > > > vietnamese, so if somebody with photoshop will help
> > > > to change the PSD file
> > > > into vietnamese that would help us all to have a
> > > > nice cover to print the day
> > > > we make Ubuntu New Release Party in Vietnamese
> > > > cities.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is the text translated:
> > > >
> > > >  Ubuntu linux for human beings: Ubuntu linux cho
> > > > lo? i ng???? i
> > > >
> > > > Ubuntu l?  g???
> > > >
> > > > Ubuntu l?  m???t h??? ?'i?? u h? nh bao g??"m c??c
> > > > ph???n m?? m m?? ngu??"n m??? v?  mi???n ph??. V???i
> > > > Ubuntu, b???n c?? th??? l?????t web, ?'?? c email,
> > > > t???o c??c t?? li???u, dung b???ng t??nh v?
> > > > nhi?? u ??(c)ng d???ng h??n n???a! Ubuntu cho b???n
> > > > quy?? n v?  kh??? n??ng linh ?'???ng trong m??i
> > > > tr???? ng kinh doanh, h?? c t???p v?  s??? d???ng
> > > > t???i nh? .
> > > >
> > > > Ubuntu r???t d??? c? i ?'???t, kh??ng c?? virus, v?
> > > > r???t th??ch h???p cho c??c m??y t??nh
> > > > x??ch tay, m??y t??nh ?'??? b? n v?  c??c m??y
> > > > ch???. D?(c)a CD b??n trong s??? c? i ?'???t v???i
> > > > kho???ng 12 ng??n ng???; v?  nhi?? u ng??n ng???
> > > > kh??c lu??n s???n s? ng ?'??? t???i v?? . ? ??y l?
> > > > ch????ng tr??nh h??? tr??? l??u d? i c???a Ubuntu.
> > > > Nh???ng n??ng c???p an ninh cho phi??n b???n
> > > > n? y c???a Ubuntu s??? c?? hi???u l???c trong 3 n??m
> > > > ?'??'i v???i m??y ?'??? b? n v?  5 n??m ?'??'i
> > > > v???i m??y ch???.
> > > >
> > > > Nh???ng ?'i?? u m???i trong phi??n b???n 8.94
> > > >
> > > >    - Xorg 7.3
> > > >    - Linux kernel 2.6.24
> > > >    - PulseAudio
> > > >    - Brasero
> > > >    - Transmission BitTorrent client
> > > >    - Wubi
> > > >    - Word Clock Applet
> > > >    - ???.v?  nhi?? u h??n th??? n???a???.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Provides: (?'?????c cung c???p b???i):
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (This soft???.)
> > > >
> > > > Ch????ng tr??nh n? y ?'?????c ph??t h? nh mi???n
> > > > ph?? d?????i m???t v? i tho??? thu???n. Ch????ng
> > > > tr??nh ?'?????c cung c???p kh??ng c?? b???t k??
> > > > ?'???m b???o, kh??ng ?'?????c s??? d???ng v???i
> > > > m???c ?'??ch
> > > > kinh doanh ho???c c??c m???c ?'??ch kh??c. Xem
> > > > ph???n gi???y ph?(c)p k??m theo trong m???i
> > > > ph???n m?? m ?'??? bi???t th??m chi ti???t. M??
> > > > ngu??"n cho Ubuntu c?? th??? ?'?????c t???i xu??'ng
> > > > t???
> > > > archive.ubuntu.com ho???c c?? th??? ?'?????c y??u
> > > > c???u t??? canonical v???i m??(c)c gi?? c???a
> > > > media and shipping. Ubuntu, bi???u tr??ng c???a
> > > > Ubuntu v?  Canonical l?  b???n quy?? n
> > > > c???a Canonical Ltd. T???t c??? nh???ng nh??n hi???u
> > > > kh??c l?  s??? h???u ri??ng c??ng ty.
> > > >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "chi nguyen lam" <lcnguyen80 at gmail.com>
> To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:54:08 +0700
> Subject: [HanoiLUG] H?i th?ng tin,
> Ch?o c?c b?c,
> Em l? th?nh vi?n m?i gia nh?p, hi?n em l?m vi?c t?i C?n Th?. Em c? m?t c?u
> h?i : "hi?n nay c? g?i ch??ng tr?nh n?o m? khi c?i ??t th? c? ??y ?? c?c
> ch??ng tr?nh mail Server : SMTP server, pop3/imap Server, webmail" ??
> Tr?n tr?ng k?nh ch?o
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Hai V. Nguyen" <viethai at gmail.com>
> To: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:56:19 +0700
> Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] H?i th?ng tin,
> Bac thu XAMPP nh?.
>
> 2008/4/2 chi nguyen lam <lcnguyen80 at gmail.com>:
>
> > Ch?o c?c b?c,
> > Em l? th?nh vi?n m?i gia nh?p, hi?n em l?m vi?c t?i C?n Th?. Em c? m?t
> > c?u h?i : "hi?n nay c? g?i ch??ng tr?nh n?o m? khi c?i ??t th? c? ??y ?? c?c
> > ch??ng tr?nh mail Server : SMTP server, pop3/imap Server, webmail" ??
> > Tr?n tr?ng k?nh ch?o
> >
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: NAHieu <nahieu at gmail.com>
> To: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:56:09 +0900
> Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] security comparison Mac OS X, Vista SP1, Ubuntu
> 7.10 was Re: HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 32
> On 3/31/08, Nguyen Vu Hung <vuhung16plus+shape at 
> gmail.com<vuhung16plus%2Bshape at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > 2008/3/31, Jean Christophe Andr? <jean-christophe.andre at auf.org>:
> >
> > > David Tremblay a ?crit :
> >  >
> >  > > Because everybody knows that linux is by far the best and the most
> secure platform (.)
> >  >  >
> >  >
> >  > Comparing Windows, MacOS and Linux, yes, that's what is common
> knowledge.
> >  >
> >  >  But if you put some other systems in the comparison, like OpenBSD,
> Linux
> >  >  may not be the absolutly most secure operating syst?me...
> >
> > OpenBSD is not a "desktop" OS.
> >  A "Linux " OS runs the Linux as an OS, and
> >  Mac OS runs FreeBSD as its OS.
>
> Firstly, this is not true: MacOS is based on Mach (microkernel) and
> BSD 4.3. But that doesnt make MacOS microkernel at all, as they put a
> lot of stuffs into that layer then.
>
> Secondly, do you really think that this contest can prove that
> Linux/Ubuntu is more secure? Not quite, simply because a lot of
> attacks nowadays are multiple-platform.
>
> See this article. I completely agree with them.
>
> "A contest such as this is not a measure of relative security between
> operating systems. It's not an accurate barometer. ..... Just because
> the laptop -- a Sony running the Ubuntu 7.10 distribution of Linux --
> was untouched doesn't mean that the operating system is any more
> secure than either Mac OS X or Windows Vista, both of which fell to
> attacks."
>
>
> http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9074102
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jean Christophe Andr? <jean-christophe.andre at auf.org>
> To: Hanoi Linux Users Group <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:18:00 +0700
> Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] H?i th?ng tin,
> chi nguyen lam a ?crit :
> > Em l? th?nh vi?n m?i gia nh?p, hi?n em l?m vi?c t?i C?n Th?. Em c? m?t
> > c?u h?i : "hi?n nay c? g?i ch??ng tr?nh n?o m? khi c?i ??t th? c? ??y
> > ?? c?c ch??ng tr?nh mail Server : SMTP server, pop3/imap Server,
> > webmail" ??
> Trong tri?t l? c?a Unix th? kh?ng ph?i c? m?t ph?n m?m ?? h?t v? l?m t?t
> c? kh?ng t?t l?m. Nh?ng m? ph?i c? m?y ph?n m?m nh?, c?c ph?n m?m l?m
> m?t ph?n t?t nh?t.
>
> Th? th? cho SMTP l? Postfix, cho POP3 v? IMAP l? dovecot, cho spam l?
> postgrey, v?i SpamAssassin v?i razor v.v., cho virus l? ClamAV, v? ??
> k?t n?i t?t c? d?ng amavis.
>
> --
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>
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