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----- Original Message ---- From: chi nguyen lam <[email protected]> To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 5:24:29 PM Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4 C?m ?n Christope, Hi?n nay c? t?i li?u n?o h??ng d?n c?i ??t tr?n v?n m?t mail server kh?ng ? th?n ?i 2008/4/2 <hanoilug-request at lists.hanoilug.org>: Send HanoiLUG mailing list submissions to hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.hanoilug.org/mailman/listinfo/hanoilug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to hanoilug-request at lists.hanoilug.org You can reach the person managing the list at hanoilug-owner at lists.hanoilug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of HanoiLUG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP (Le Quoc Thai) 2. Re: [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP (David Tremblay) 3. H?i th?ng tin, (chi nguyen lam) 4. Re: H?i th?ng tin, (Hai V. Nguyen) 5. Re: security comparison Mac OS X, Vista SP1, Ubuntu 7.10 was Re: HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 32 (NAHieu) 6. Re: H?i th?ng tin, (Jean Christophe Andr?) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Le Quoc Thai" <[email protected]> To: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:35:02 +0700 Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP Hi Lars, 2008/3/31, Lars Adermalm <lars.adermalm at gmail.com>: Hi Hai and Ivan, - Finally a question rather than a suggestion. I read/interpret theslogan "ubuntu - linux for human beings" as "ubuntu, contrary to otherversions of linux, does not require expert computer skills and can beused by anybody that can use a PC with other operating systems, i.e.any human being". "Loai nguoi" I interpret more like "the humanity". Ifmy interpretation of the intentions of the Canonical is correct, thenperhaps "linux cho moi nguoi" or something the like would be a bettertranslation. :-\ Good luck / Lars I share the same with you to translate "Ubuntu - linux for human beings" as "Linux cho m?i ng??i". Thai L.Q. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Tremblay <[email protected]> To: Hanoi Linux Users Group <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:36:31 +0700 Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] [Discuss] Hardy Heron Vietnamese CD/DVD cover HELP Le lundi 31 mars 2008 ? 22:27 +0700, Lars Adermalm a ?crit : > Hi Hai and Ivan, > > Looks great. Just a few suggestions. Looks great yes, I love the new artwork > - But more importantly I feel that the bottom text carries the wrong > message and needs a careful review. "It is provided without any > warranty, without even the implied warranty of merchantability or > fitness for a particular purpose" now reads something like "This > programme is provided without any guarantee and may not be used for > commercial or other purposes" :-\ Everybody should knows that Linux can be use for commercial purpose : I suggest to say : ?"It is provided without any warranty, without even the implied warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose" "This mean that you can use it for any purpose you want, including money making, but don't expect any guarantee" > - Finally a question rather than a suggestion. I read/interpret the > slogan "ubuntu - linux for human beings" as "ubuntu, contrary to other > versions of linux, does not require expert computer skills and can be > used by anybody that can use a PC with other operating systems, i.e. > any human being". "Loai nguoi" I interpret more like "the humanity". > If my interpretation of the intentions of the Canonical is correct, > then perhaps "linux cho moi nguoi" or something the like would be a > better translation. :-\ I think they really meant "for humanity". Quite pretentious I admit. I also like Linux for everybody, it's up to you... > > Good luck / Lars > > Hai Nguyen Thanh wrote: > > Hi Ivan, > > > > I just updated Vietnamese text for the cover, attached > > is JPG file for preview. > > > > I read the translated text, mostly it's OK to me and > > understandable. However there are some words that I > > feel need to discuss, as translated IT English into > > Vietnamese is not easy. I modified the text a bit, not > > change the whole meaning, just made it understandable > > and sound "Vietnamese" :). If possible, please ask > > Onishidato about my changes and let me know his > > opinion. Also everybody in the loop please have a look > > at the text and let me know if I need to change any > > thing, all opinions are welcome :) > > > > Secondly, that PSD file used MyriadProWeb font which I > > don't have, then I use a similar Myriad Web font for > > Vietnamese version, I hope it won't make to much > > different. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Hai > > > > P/S: I'm Fedora's fan :) > > > > --- Ivan Garcia <capiscuas at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Take a look to this artwork to create covers for the > > > CD/DVD of next version > > > of Ubuntu. > > > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/DVD_Cover_(Fela_Kuti_Chocolate)#head-3d68dd82b0571e9c097e1b123feb8369ce8bd8a8<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/DVD_Cover_%28Fela_Kuti_Chocolate%29#head-3d68dd82b0571e9c097e1b123feb8369ce8bd8a8> > > > > > They have created a photoshop file (PSD) here > > > http://www.filefactory.com/file/c677b2/ . (they say > > > it's not compatible with > > > GIMP thought). > > > > > > My friend Onishidato in HCMC has translated the > > > english text into > > > vietnamese, so if somebody with photoshop will help > > > to change the PSD file > > > into vietnamese that would help us all to have a > > > nice cover to print the day > > > we make Ubuntu New Release Party in Vietnamese > > > cities. > > > > > > > > > Here is the text translated: > > > > > > Ubuntu linux for human beings: Ubuntu linux cho > > > lo? i ng???? i > > > > > > Ubuntu l? g??? > > > > > > Ubuntu l? m???t h??? ?'i?? u h? nh bao g??"m c??c > > > ph???n m?? m m?? ngu??"n m??? v? mi???n ph??. V???i > > > Ubuntu, b???n c?? th??? l?????t web, ?'?? c email, > > > t???o c??c t?? li???u, dung b???ng t??nh v? > > > nhi?? u ???ng d???ng h??n n???a! Ubuntu cho b???n > > > quy?? n v? kh??? n??ng linh ?'???ng trong m??i > > > tr???? ng kinh doanh, h?? c t???p v? s??? d???ng > > > t???i nh? . > > > > > > Ubuntu r???t d??? c? i ?'???t, kh??ng c?? virus, v? > > > r???t th??ch h???p cho c??c m??y t??nh > > > x??ch tay, m??y t??nh ?'??? b? n v? c??c m??y > > > ch???. D??a CD b??n trong s??? c? i ?'???t v???i > > > kho???ng 12 ng??n ng???; v? nhi?? u ng??n ng??? > > > kh??c lu??n s???n s? ng ?'??? t???i v?? . ? ??y l? > > > ch????ng tr??nh h??? tr??? l??u d? i c???a Ubuntu. > > > Nh???ng n??ng c???p an ninh cho phi??n b???n > > > n? y c???a Ubuntu s??? c?? hi???u l???c trong 3 n??m > > > ?'??'i v???i m??y ?'??? b? n v? 5 n??m ?'??'i > > > v???i m??y ch???. > > > > > > Nh???ng ?'i?? u m???i trong phi??n b???n 8.94 > > > > > > - Xorg 7.3 > > > - Linux kernel 2.6.24 > > > - PulseAudio > > > - Brasero > > > - Transmission BitTorrent client > > > - Wubi > > > - Word Clock Applet > > > - ???.v? nhi?? u h??n th??? n???a???. > > > > > > > > > > > > Provides: (?'?????c cung c???p b???i): > > > > > > > > > (This soft???.) > > > > > > Ch????ng tr??nh n? y ?'?????c ph??t h? nh mi???n > > > ph?? d?????i m???t v? i tho??? thu???n. Ch????ng > > > tr??nh ?'?????c cung c???p kh??ng c?? b???t k?? > > > ?'???m b???o, kh??ng ?'?????c s??? d???ng v???i > > > m???c ?'??ch > > > kinh doanh ho???c c??c m???c ?'??ch kh??c. Xem > > > ph???n gi???y ph??p k??m theo trong m???i > > > ph???n m?? m ?'??? bi???t th??m chi ti???t. M?? > > > ngu??"n cho Ubuntu c?? th??? ?'?????c t???i xu??'ng > > > t??? > > > archive.ubuntu.com ho???c c?? th??? ?'?????c y??u > > > c???u t??? canonical v???i m???c gi?? c???a > > > media and shipping. Ubuntu, bi???u tr??ng c???a > > > Ubuntu v? Canonical l? b???n quy?? n > > > c???a Canonical Ltd. T???t c??? nh???ng nh??n hi???u > > > kh??c l? s??? h???u ri??ng c??ng ty. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Discuss mailing list > > > Discuss at saigonlug.org > > > > > > > > http://saigonlug.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_saigonlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one > > month at no cost. > > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text4.com > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HanoiLUG mailing lists: http://lists.hanoilug.org/mailman/ > > HanoiLUG wiki: http://wiki.hanoilug.org/ > > HanoiLUG blog: http://blog.hanoilug.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > HanoiLUG mailing lists: http://lists.hanoilug.org/mailman/ > HanoiLUG wiki: http://wiki.hanoilug.org/ > HanoiLUG blog: http://blog.hanoilug.org/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "chi nguyen lam" <[email protected]> To: hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:54:08 +0700 Subject: [HanoiLUG] H?i th?ng tin, Ch?o c?c b?c, Em l? th?nh vi?n m?i gia nh?p, hi?n em l?m vi?c t?i C?n Th?. Em c? m?t c?u h?i : "hi?n nay c? g?i ch??ng tr?nh n?o m? khi c?i ??t th? c? ??y ?? c?c ch??ng tr?nh mail Server : SMTP server, pop3/imap Server, webmail" ?? Tr?n tr?ng k?nh ch?o ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Hai V. Nguyen" <[email protected]> To: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:56:19 +0700 Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] H?i th?ng tin, Bac thu XAMPP nh?. 2008/4/2 chi nguyen lam <lcnguyen80 at gmail.com>: Ch?o c?c b?c, Em l? th?nh vi?n m?i gia nh?p, hi?n em l?m vi?c t?i C?n Th?. Em c? m?t c?u h?i : "hi?n nay c? g?i ch??ng tr?nh n?o m? khi c?i ??t th? c? ??y ?? c?c ch??ng tr?nh mail Server : SMTP server, pop3/imap Server, webmail" ?? Tr?n tr?ng k?nh ch?o _______________________________________________ HanoiLUG mailing lists: http://lists.hanoilug.org/mailman/ HanoiLUG wiki: http://wiki.hanoilug.org/ HanoiLUG blog: http://blog.hanoilug.org/ -- Life is ours, we live it our way! <a href="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=2091&t=55";><img border="0" alt="Get Firefox!" title="Get Firefox!" src="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/images/affiliates/Buttons/180x60/trust.gif"/></a> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: NAHieu <[email protected]> To: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:56:09 +0900 Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] security comparison Mac OS X, Vista SP1, Ubuntu 7.10 was Re: HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 32 On 3/31/08, Nguyen Vu Hung <vuhung16plus+shape at gmail.com> wrote: > 2008/3/31, Jean Christophe Andr? <jean-christophe.andre at auf.org>: > > > David Tremblay a ?crit : > > > > > Because everybody knows that linux is by far the best and the most > secure platform (.) > > > > > > > Comparing Windows, MacOS and Linux, yes, that's what is common knowledge. > > > > But if you put some other systems in the comparison, like OpenBSD, Linux > > may not be the absolutly most secure operating syst?me... > > OpenBSD is not a "desktop" OS. > A "Linux " OS runs the Linux as an OS, and > Mac OS runs FreeBSD as its OS. Firstly, this is not true: MacOS is based on Mach (microkernel) and BSD 4.3. But that doesnt make MacOS microkernel at all, as they put a lot of stuffs into that layer then. Secondly, do you really think that this contest can prove that Linux/Ubuntu is more secure? Not quite, simply because a lot of attacks nowadays are multiple-platform. See this article. I completely agree with them. "A contest such as this is not a measure of relative security between operating systems. It's not an accurate barometer. ..... Just because the laptop -- a Sony running the Ubuntu 7.10 distribution of Linux -- was untouched doesn't mean that the operating system is any more secure than either Mac OS X or Windows Vista, both of which fell to attacks." http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9074102 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jean Christophe Andr? <[email protected]> To: Hanoi Linux Users Group <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:18:00 +0700 Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] H?i th?ng tin, chi nguyen lam a ?crit : > Em l? th?nh vi?n m?i gia nh?p, hi?n em l?m vi?c t?i C?n Th?. Em c? m?t > c?u h?i : "hi?n nay c? g?i ch??ng tr?nh n?o m? khi c?i ??t th? c? ??y > ?? c?c ch??ng tr?nh mail Server : SMTP server, pop3/imap Server, > webmail" ?? Trong tri?t l? c?a Unix th? kh?ng ph?i c? m?t ph?n m?m ?? h?t v? l?m t?t c? kh?ng t?t l?m. Nh?ng m? ph?i c? m?y ph?n m?m nh?, c?c ph?n m?m l?m m?t ph?n t?t nh?t. Th? th? cho SMTP l? 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