On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Gwenhael Le Moine <
[email protected]> wrote:

> 2011/6/28 Nguyen Vu Hung (VNC) <[email protected]>
>
> **
>>
>>
>> (2011/06/28 14:02), Truong Anh. Tuan wrote:
>>
>>  <OT>> hmmmm... no. It's time to kill this myth for the great good of both> 
>> vietnamese people and foreigners.> [beli a good read about this:> 
>> http://www.tofugu.com/2010/06/18/top-10-reasons-a-japanese-girlfriend-wont-help-your-japanese/>
>>  ]> </OT>
>>
>>  There is no reason to doubt Gwenhael. He has got a lot of experience
>> about this. He also can not speak Vietnamese even after he got married
>> to a Vietnamese beautiful girl :D
>>
>>
>>  He is talking about Japanese.
>> Was that *history* or my story? :)
>>
>
> the linked article is about japanese, it's an illustration. From this
> particular japanese example and my experience I extrapolate that most of the
> article is applicable to the general case. Furthermore if 2 people start a
> relationship based on wanting to learn languages then both people will be
> thoroughly disappointed and a failed romantic relationship can be rather
> painful.
>
>>
>> Having a relationship with a "ganguro" is a bad idea if you want to learn
>> Japanese.
>> Simplely, what a "ganguro" speaks is not Japanese :)
>>
>> For expats those who want to stay in a foreign country, mastering the
>> local language
>> worths the investment.
>>
>
> Sure. Then again, some local languages and environments are more welcoming
> than others. Being french I learned english mostly during a 2 months stay in
> the US many years ago yet 6 years in Vietnam have done nothing to help me
> learn vietnamese.
>
>>
>> However, in some cases, I think the side effect may devalue you:
>>
>> Vietnamese expects that you - a Western foreigner - can speak a language
>> that they have to pay and learn.
>> Don't command a Vietnamese with his mother tongue, use English!
>>
>> Btw, this is my random thought a year ago. Enjoy reading :)
>> http://www.slideshare.net/vuhung16plus/betterservicesinvietnam
>>
>
> Ok, so I'm now curious why should I learn vietnamese if I shouldn't use it?
>
I think, the best way that you should learn vietnamese more effectively is
from a long hair (Tóc dài) dictionary.
nghialt

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