Thank you for your help.
I take it that you are find Pacemaker reliable in your experience? Should I 
look into it? 
 

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 From: David Coulson <[email protected]>
To: Hermes Flying <[email protected]> 
Cc: Baptiste <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: HAproxy and detect split-brain (network failures)
  

Again, you need to talk to the pacemaker people for actual clustering 
information.

The ping was so a node could detect it lost upstream connectivity,
    and move the VIP, otherwise the VIP may continue to run on a system
    which does not have access to your network. This has nothing at all
    to do with split brain.

If you want to deal with split brain, add a third node. Period. You
    also want to have redundant heartbeat communication paths. You also
    want STONITH/fencing so if one node detects the other is down it'll
    power it off or crash it. I've not had issues with a two-node
    cluster with two diverse backend communication links and fencing
    enabled.

David


On 11/29/12 3:58 PM, Hermes Flying wrote:
 
"You can have pacemaker ping an IP (gateway for example) and migrate the VIP 
based on that" 
>How does this help for splitbrain? 
>If I understand what you say, pacemaker will ping an IP and if successfull 
>will assume that the other node has crashed. But what if the other node hasn't 
>and it is just their communication link that failed? Won't both become 
>primary? 
>How does the ping help? 
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>From: David Coulson mailto:[email protected]
>To: Hermes Flying mailto:[email protected] 
>Cc: Baptiste mailto:[email protected]; mailto:[email protected] 
>mailto:[email protected] 
>Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:26 PM
>Subject: Re: HAproxy and detect split-brain (network failures)
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>On 11/29/12 3:11 PM, Hermes Flying wrote:
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>I see now!
>>One last question since you are using Pacemaker.
                        Do you recommend it for splitbrain so that I
                        look into that direction?
>>   
>Any two node cluster has risk of split brain. if you
                implement fencing/STONITH, you are in a better place. If
                you have a third node, that's even better, even if it
                does not actually run any services beyond the cluster
                software
>
>I mean when you say that pacemaker restart HAProxy, does it detect network 
>failures as well? Or only SW crashes?  
>>I assume pacemaker will be aware of both
                        HAProxy1 and HAProxy2 in my described deployment
>>  
You can have pacemaker ping an IP (gateway for example) and migrate the VIP 
based on that. In my config I have haproxy configured as a cloned resource in 
pacemaker, so all nodes have the same pacemaker config for haproxy and it keeps 
haproxy running on all nodes all of the time.
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