On 6/09/2014 12:00 AM, Andy Walker wrote: > If you're going to come up with a ridiculous analogy, you might as well > get it right. For your analogy to work, you would also have to keep in > mind that the people that are being shot at have actually signed up to > be shot at, just like you signed up to be on the mailing list.
I signed up to a mailing list for haproxy - not to be a spam sink. I can't believe that in this day and age people actually make excuses for this... > It wouldn't be a simple task for Willy to take over moderating a mailing > list, and with all of the work he does on HAProxy, I think some of you > could be a bit more appreciative of everything he does. I'm sure if > someone were to volunteer to help tackle this problem, that he'd be more > than willing to consider alternate options. Yes, yes it is a simple task. I run many mailing lists - both private and public - and NONE get spam through to them. Previously, it was mentioned that the subscriber to poster count was a massively different ratio - and with all the spam that flows via here, I don't have any problem believing that - but I do wonder what it would be like if action was actually taken to not be a spam sink. I am actually taking some effort to bring the topic up... If I didn't think the list was valuable, I'd have just unsubscribed weeks ago... > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Steven Haigh <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > On 5/09/2014 11:46 PM, Kobus Bensch wrote: > > On 05/09/2014 11:17, Lukas Tribus wrote: > >>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Steven Haigh <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> Hi guys, > >>>> > >>>> I've noticed that this list seems to get more spam than I've ever > >>>> experienced before on any mailing list. > >>>> > >>>> Is there anyone administrating this list? Is spamassassin used on > >>>> the list? > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Steven Haigh > >>> Hi Steven, > >>> > >>> It's a common asked question: > >>> > > https://www.google.fr/search?q=haproy+formilux+spam&oq=haproy+formilux+spam > >>> > >>> > >>> Baptiste > >> > >> I know that people have strong opinions about this which is why > previous > >> discussions have been a bit "tense", but I think we will have to > discuss > >> this again sooner or later. > >> > >> I got 16 SPAM mails through the ML in the last 12 hours (and 3 valid > >> post), > >> and the trend in the last weeks shows that this is getting worse. > >> > >> > >> Now, having a some antispam solution in front of the ML requires > >> maintenance > >> and will inevitably lead to false positives, thats probably not what > >> we want > >> or have the resources to do. > >> > >> Restricting the list to subscribed user (subonlypost) is not a > good thing > >> either, however if the alternative is that important topics (from > both > >> subscribed and not subscribed users) are buried in tens of SPAM > threads > >> every day, I think its a small price to pay. > >> > >> just my two cents, > >> > > Here is my 2 cents. The amount of spam I receive through this list is > > far, and I mean FAR outweighed by the valuable information that I get > > from posts as they currently come in. Besides, any spam I get, is > > handled by our MTA/Spam server anyway. So I think I received around 5 in > > the last 10 days. The one or 2 emails that do come through, or that I > > dont get, is dealt with pretty swiftly with either a lightning click of > > the Delete button, or a restore from spam. whichever be required for the > > appropriate action. > > I should also be able to walk around town shooting at people.... Its > easy enough for people to buy a bullet proof vest... If they don't have > one, its their problem... > > Its the wrong way to look at it... Why waste thousands of CPU cycles > across thousands of machines worldwide because we're too stubborn to fix > the problem at the source? > > -- > Steven Haigh > > Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Web: http://www.crc.id.au > Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 > Fax: (03) 8338 0299 > > -- Steven Haigh Email: [email protected] Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 Fax: (03) 8338 0299
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