If you're going to come up with a ridiculous analogy, you might as well get
it right. For your analogy to work, you would also have to keep in mind
that the people that are being shot at have actually signed up to be shot
at, just like you signed up to be on the mailing list.

It wouldn't be a simple task for Willy to take over moderating a mailing
list, and with all of the work he does on HAProxy, I think some of you
could be a bit more appreciative of everything he does. I'm sure if someone
were to volunteer to help tackle this problem, that he'd be more than
willing to consider alternate options.


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Andy Walker
System Administrator
FBS - creators of flexmls
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Fargo, ND  58104
701-235-7300


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Steven Haigh <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 5/09/2014 11:46 PM, Kobus Bensch wrote:
> > On 05/09/2014 11:17, Lukas Tribus wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Steven Haigh <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've noticed that this list seems to get more spam than I've ever
> >>>> experienced before on any mailing list.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there anyone administrating this list? Is spamassassin used on
> >>>> the list?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Steven Haigh
> >>> Hi Steven,
> >>>
> >>> It's a common asked question:
> >>>
> https://www.google.fr/search?q=haproy+formilux+spam&oq=haproy+formilux+spam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Baptiste
> >>
> >> I know that people have strong opinions about this which is why previous
> >> discussions have been a bit "tense", but I think we will have to discuss
> >> this again sooner or later.
> >>
> >> I got 16 SPAM mails through the ML in the last 12 hours (and 3 valid
> >> post),
> >> and the trend in the last weeks shows that this is getting worse.
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, having a some antispam solution in front of the ML requires
> >> maintenance
> >> and will inevitably lead to false positives, thats probably not what
> >> we want
> >> or have the resources to do.
> >>
> >> Restricting the list to subscribed user (subonlypost) is not a good
> thing
> >> either, however if the alternative is that important topics (from both
> >> subscribed and not subscribed users) are buried in tens of SPAM threads
> >> every day, I think its a small price to pay.
> >>
> >> just my two cents,
> >>
> > Here is my 2 cents. The amount of spam I receive through this list is
> > far, and I mean FAR outweighed by the valuable information that I get
> > from posts as they currently come in. Besides, any spam I get, is
> > handled by our MTA/Spam server anyway. So I think I received around 5 in
> > the last 10 days. The one or 2 emails that do come through, or that I
> > dont get, is dealt with pretty swiftly with either a lightning click of
> > the Delete button, or a restore from spam. whichever be required for the
> > appropriate action.
>
> I should also be able to walk around town shooting at people.... Its
> easy enough for people to buy a bullet proof vest... If they don't have
> one, its their problem...
>
> Its the wrong way to look at it... Why waste thousands of CPU cycles
> across thousands of machines worldwide because we're too stubborn to fix
> the problem at the source?
>
> --
> Steven Haigh
>
> Email: [email protected]
> Web: http://www.crc.id.au
> Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897
> Fax: (03) 8338 0299
>
>

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