Hi.

Wed May 22 23:41:13 GMT+02:00 2019 Willy Tarreau :

> Hi Ilya,
 >
 > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 01:29:53AM +0500, ???? ??????? wrote:
 > > Hello,
 > >
 > > if we do not like using github PR and Willy receives 2k emails a day...
 > > do we consider using something like that
 > > https://patchwork.openvpn.net/project/openvpn2/list/ ?
 >
 > At least not now, please let's slow down on process changes, I cannot
 > catch up anymore. Really. I find myself spending 10 times more time in
 > a browser than what I used to do 6 months ago, for me it's becoming
 > very difficult. Between the issue tracker, the CI, github settings, the
 > links to dumps, confs or logs that are lazily copy-pasted instead of
 > sending the info itself etc... In the end I find myself working far
 > less efficiently for now, having to spend more time at work to produce
 > the same, however it helps others work more efficiently, which is nice.
 > But since I've always been a bottleneck, it remains important that we
 > don't forget to optimize my time, or everyone will spend their time
 > waiting for me, which I cannot accept. And the worst that can happen
 > is that I become a bottleneck due to processes because this would be
 > something I wouldn't be able to improve at all.


Full ack.

>From my point of view is the ci and issue tacker a good step forward but for 
>now we should try to focus on the list as it is still the main communication 
>channel.

How about to add into the tools mailing forward and reply?
 We can then use the mail clients for communication and the tools will receive 
the answers automatically.

Jm2c

> I hope you can understand that no change comes with zero cost and that
 > for some people (like me) they come with a higher cost. Sometimes this
 > cost can be recovered over time, sometimes it's a pure loss. So let's
 > not engage too many changes at once and keep some time to observe the
 > outcome of everything we've done for now.
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Willy

Regards
 Aleks



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