Wed May 22 23:41:13 GMT+02:00 2019 Willy Tarreau :

> Hi Ilya,
 > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 01:29:53AM +0500, ???? ??????? wrote:
 > > Hello,
 > >
 > > if we do not like using github PR and Willy receives 2k emails a day...
 > > do we consider using something like that
 > > https://patchwork.openvpn.net/project/openvpn2/list/ ?
 > At least not now, please let's slow down on process changes, I cannot
 > catch up anymore. Really. I find myself spending 10 times more time in
 > a browser than what I used to do 6 months ago, for me it's becoming
 > very difficult. Between the issue tracker, the CI, github settings, the
 > links to dumps, confs or logs that are lazily copy-pasted instead of
 > sending the info itself etc... In the end I find myself working far
 > less efficiently for now, having to spend more time at work to produce
 > the same, however it helps others work more efficiently, which is nice.
 > But since I've always been a bottleneck, it remains important that we
 > don't forget to optimize my time, or everyone will spend their time
 > waiting for me, which I cannot accept. And the worst that can happen
 > is that I become a bottleneck due to processes because this would be
 > something I wouldn't be able to improve at all.

Full ack.

>From my point of view is the ci and issue tacker a good step forward but for 
>now we should try to focus on the list as it is still the main communication 

How about to add into the tools mailing forward and reply?
 We can then use the mail clients for communication and the tools will receive 
the answers automatically.


> I hope you can understand that no change comes with zero cost and that
 > for some people (like me) they come with a higher cost. Sometimes this
 > cost can be recovered over time, sometimes it's a pure loss. So let's
 > not engage too many changes at once and keep some time to observe the
 > outcome of everything we've done for now.
 > Cheers,
 > Willy


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