Hi,

On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 11:20:25AM +0200, Sebastian Fohler wrote:
> What about a Patron account.
> 
> https://www.patreon.com/europe
> 
> Cause I already asked multiple times for some other means of contribution as
> well.
> That would help a great deal, makeing it easier.
> I'm supporting multiple Opensource projects already this way.
> Would that be an option?

Well, to make things clear, first let me remind that the paypal account
is my personal account, which I have added a link to from the main page
upon request by several people willing to donate many years ago. This
has been helpful in the early days, allowing me buy some hardware to
experiment during week-ends (such as the 10G lab), and to significantly
improve the code's portability and efficiency on small systems. It used
to serve to contribute to the hosting costs as well.

Since then the project has considerably evolved, being backed by a company
offering a much larger full-time development team. And users are well
aware of this because nowadays donations are extremely rare (in the range
of tens of dollars a year). But at the same time nowadays I do not need
them at all anymore, so I'm perfectly fine with replacing the link with
anything else. I've only been keeping it because I know that if I remove
it, the question will come back again a few months later.

The only thing is that I am *not* going to deal with yet another task
that adds more burden, so if someone is willing to set up any account
via $whatever company, they will have to handle it and pass me the
replacement link. At least the paypal link doesn't cause me any extra
work beyond replying "thank you" to donators once in a while. Just be
aware that since donations are rare, I'm not at all convinced it will
be worth doing anything particular. And at some point a solution will
have to be found to spend the eventual money that would land there,
so someone will have to handle this, and again it's certainly not me.

My personal suggestion would be that those who want to give a few
dollars better keep their money that they certainly need more than
most developers or contributors do, because due to the project's
nature, contributors generaly work in IT at levels at which, based on
the high quality of their contributions, they're not expected to be
starving at all (or if they do they definitely need to switch jobs as
their skills are quite sought)! If anyone is ever willing to spend a
large amount, like thousands of dollars, better hire someone to develop
some useful desired features, it will be an excellent contribution to
the project! Another great option is to contact your favorite distro's
package maintainer and propose your donation there, because distro
maintainers have been doing this thankless job for many years now and
deserve some recognition as well. For anything else, offering time to
look into bugs, testing -dev releases, improving the doc, contributing
to the wiki etc is extremely valuable and helps all contributors at
once.

As you see, there are still plenty of options which do not require
managing any new account anywhere.

Thanks for your support :-)
Willy

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