On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 07:37:00PM +0100, Tim Düsterhus wrote:
> Am 22.12.20 um 19:30 schrieb ???? ???????:
> > I think minutes are renewed monthly, or not?
> > 
> 
> I thought so as well after their initial announcement, but no: The 10k
> credits (= 1000 Linux minutes) were a one-time top-up.

I initially had the same doubts and figured I had really read it well.

> Open Source projects can get additional top-ups, but not recurring, so
> one would need to send an email every few weeks whenever the minutes run
> out.
> 
> And also to qualify for the Open Source credits *not a single* paid
> employee may work on the Open Source project.

This is non-sensical. If they can come up with a *single* example of
long-term successful opensource project which is not at least indirectly
backed by either a company or a foundation, I'd be glad to know about it.
The truth is, most opensource projects start when developers are students
with plenty of time and willingness to implement better versions of existing
stuff, and once they start to work and to get a real life, either the project
dies (hence why 99.9% of projects don't go past 3 years) or they present an
interest for an employer and the developer continues to be allowed to work
on it. Sadly it just proves that Travis has no idea how opensource works,
and while we've always been cautious not to abuse their infrastructure to
remain good citizens, I doubt they'll recover well from kicking everyone
off of their systems :-/

> So: Travis is effectively dead for HAProxy, unless Travis CI management
> changes their minds.

I pinged them when you sent me the announcement, I never even received a
reply. I suspect a change of management in the company, or that they might
be in serious financial trouble and have to urgently cut costs everywhere
to save what can still be saved. In any case it's sad, as it's always sad
to see a significant actor in the opensource ecosystem disappear.

Removal patch applied by the way.

Willy

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