Bad news. I thought to keep arm64, s390, ppc64le builds

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 12:10 AM Tim Düsterhus <[email protected]> wrote:

> Willy,
>
> Am 22.12.20 um 19:51 schrieb Willy Tarreau:
> >> Open Source projects can get additional top-ups, but not recurring, so
> >> one would need to send an email every few weeks whenever the minutes run
> >> out.
> >>
> >> And also to qualify for the Open Source credits *not a single* paid
> >> employee may work on the Open Source project.
> >
> > This is non-sensical. If they can come up with a *single* example of
> > long-term successful opensource project which is not at least indirectly
> > backed by either a company or a foundation, I'd be glad to know about it.
>
> Yeah exactly. I don't even know what would happen with their policy when
> someone sends a single patch while on company time, but otherwise does
> not regularly contribute. Is your Open Source project backed by a
> company if you accept that patch?
>
> > The truth is, most opensource projects start when developers are students
> > with plenty of time and willingness to implement better versions of
> existing
> > stuff, and once they start to work and to get a real life, either the
> project
> > dies (hence why 99.9% of projects don't go past 3 years) or they present
> an
> > interest for an employer and the developer continues to be allowed to
> work
> > on it. Sadly it just proves that Travis has no idea how opensource works,
> > and while we've always been cautious not to abuse their infrastructure to
> > remain good citizens, I doubt they'll recover well from kicking everyone
> > off of their systems :-/
>
> I have a few smallish open source projects that I maintain in my
> personal time (e.g. https://github.com/TimWolla/haproxy-auth-request),
> but I would not even use Travis for those.
>
> I want to do useful stuff (e.g. adding a feature) and not waste time
> sending emails begging someone for more build minutes until I can
> continue working on it.
>
> I also never would suggest starting to use paid Travis to my employer
> when I have GitHub Actions experience from my personal projects and the
> employer could just pay for GitHub Actions instead and already have the
> necessary expertise is already there.
>
> >> So: Travis is effectively dead for HAProxy, unless Travis CI management
> >> changes their minds.
> >
> > I pinged them when you sent me the announcement, I never even received a
> > reply. I suspect a change of management in the company, or that they
> might
> > be in serious financial trouble and have to urgently cut costs everywhere
> > to save what can still be saved. In any case it's sad, as it's always sad
> > to see a significant actor in the opensource ecosystem disappear.
>
> A bit of both I think. They were acquired in early 2019 (see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_CI#Company) and they also reported
> that many users would abuse Travis CI builds to mine Bitcoins until the
> job timed out after 50 minutes. You really can't have nice things.
>
> > Removal patch applied by the way.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards
> Tim Düsterhus
>

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