[Hardhats-members] GNU GPL and comments

[Joseph Dal Molin]

Sorry for cross posting.... I felt that it was important to remind us 
that VistA is about improving health outcomes first and foremost... this 
point easily gets lost in the esoterics of licensing etc. and such. It 
also occurred to me that it might be of value to talk about why the open 
source model is of critical importance to health systems...anyone 
curious or interested? Yes, I know that this is not an open source 
forum....and that some feel or have felt that the "open sorcerers" are 
taking up too much bandwidth....nevertheless it is a model that is here 
to stay according to both Forrester Research and the Yankee Group who 
spoke at a seminar I attended yesterday (was happy to hear that the last 
6 years of my work now has the good house keeping seal of approval :-)  )

Joseph
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Subject: Re: [vista-vendors] Cutting to the case regarding licenses
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 14:34:31 -0500
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Back to cutting to the chase....
IMHO disclosure is only half of the issue, while it is the literal
interpretation of open source... it is only part of the picture. The
equally if not more important part is contribution to the common code
base via collaborative innovation etc. .... that is where the strategic
value of open source is for health care systems and the leverage to
improve health outcomes. This speaks to the core business of health care
and VistA's adopters which is improving health outcomes. IP protection
and comptetitive advantage etc. while important are secondary objectives..
The research and projects I have done for the Canadian federal gov't and
European Commission strongly support the notion that the real
innovation and power of open source is to be the designer of the
"earthquake" not the victim. What this takes is alligning the license
with the core mission of health care and at the same time creating
innovative business models that work harmoniously with this
reality....anything else will compromise improvement in health care and
is IMHO indicative of a lack of "out of the box" thinking and capability
on the part of those who think they are open source companies.
Cheers
Joseph
Joel West wrote:
On 9:37 AM -0800 11/20/04, Joel West doth scribe:
There are two different types of licenses requiring downstream disclosure, and one may be objectionable than the other. The GPL defines derivative works broadly and could (in a VistA context) require disclosure of modules bundled with GPL modules; the CPL, MPL, LGPL only requires disclosures of changes to the GPL module.

Sorry for the blather. Let's try again.
There are two different types of licenses requiring downstream disclosure, and 
one may be more objectionable than the other. The GPL defines derivative works 
broadly and could (in a VistA context) require disclosure of modules bundled 
with GPL modules; the CPL, MPL, LGPL only requires disclosures of changes to 
the  module licensed nder the CPL, MPL or LGPL.

 
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