Vista is not old technology because of the language that it is written in. Vists is called old technology because it only has crude user interfaces that are text based. It was designed a long time ago and there is still code that is based on the assumptions of a time that used linited resourses and had no / poor network connections, and was developed in a governmental entity were things are also done because of politics. M seems like a good solid language for writing databases (which most of the people on this list will agree Vista is). C\C++are legacy languages but is still used for many programs. IMHO what we need to do with Vista is examine what we want out of it, that should not take long because it does so much. Look at some of the problem areas and come up with solutions. Vista now tries to do it all it serves as a DB management tool, Front end presentaion tool, and network communication tool. This most likely should be separated and put into different places. The undelying code should not be tied to the presentation of the data. We do not need to rewrite all of Vista but we need to take a look under the hood and see if the assumptions that were there when the code was designed still hold true. Remember, Oracle, DB2 even CACHE I belive uses ODBC or JBDC to do the network communication and uses Visual Basic or Java to do the presentation, let's look at the whole picture and start with a good design using all that has been learned in the past to rewrite a good product using as much of what we already have to create a newly designed great product of he future.
(holy crap is this ever longer than I thought it would be) Thank you, Marc Aylesworth Health Specialist Technician Oneida Indian Nation 223 Genesee Street Oneida, New York 13421 (315) 829-8909 This electronic transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. You are also requested to please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Schlehuber Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library And then there are the power plants that still use ... gasp! ... steam! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ormsby, Skip Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library Hmm... I wonder if those folks who use the "old technology" argument, don't drive a vehicle that uses a piston engine? After all the piston engine has been around for a very long time. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library Kevin, You are battling an age-old predjudice against M. It seems M was considered "old technology" (by the un-informed), before it was old ! I think alot of the predjudice goes back to the poorly chosen (IMO) name of MUMPS, for the language. Had it has been named "Laser" or maybe just "M" in the beginning, it might have enjoyed a different trajectory. Certainly the biggest M vendor understands the marketing difficulties with system based on MUMPS. One has to look hard for any references to it in their marketing material. Instead, it is called post-relational, object oriented, and multi-dimensional. All of which is true. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joseph Dal Molin Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] We need a news stories library Consider it done Kevin....great idea....especially the part about delegating Nancy to do the work :-) Joseph Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > Someone from my group was grumbling recently that VistA is going to be > a bad option for our group because is it "old technology." > > And then Bhaskar posts regarding a Thai Bank converting to GT.M. And > Nancy regularly posts ongoing news about VistA etc. > > Could we start a subpage on the WorldVistA web site that lists these > news stories, so I could take someone there and show them at a glance > all the ongoing activity? It would help prove that M / VistA is not "dead". > > I'd like to nominate Nancy to be the one to regularly add to such a > page.. :-) Nancy, you can thank me later. 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