Kevin,
Yes i had downloaded and printed this manual. I guess
the reason i did not really work with it is coz i was
working more from the surgery perspective rather than
to get TIU configured. 

The last time i parsed the manual, it did frighten me!
that was when i realized that a lot goes above my
head! Gues i'll have to start gettin things in as
well! Shall try out the TIU parameter file also.

I'm sure i'll shoot out more mails over the next few
hours!

Thanks
Nick.
--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nick,
> 
> I don't mind giving you a step-by-step, but I think
> you will benefit if you print out and read the
> TIU/ASU
> IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE, which you can get from here:
> 
> http://www.va.gov/vdl/Clinical.asp?appID=65
> 
> Its a bit complicated at first.  I had to write all
> kinds of notes in the margins of my copy until I
> figured the system out.
> 
> The transcriptionst creates the notes in his/her
> favorite word processor.  Then save the file as a
> text
> document.  Then the file is uploaded into VistA
> (menu
> option TIU UPLOAD MENU).  This can be via a terminal
> KERMIT transfer protocol, or it can be saved to the
> host file system (HFS), and the upload process can
> get
> it from there.
> 
> I think the filer programs are TIUPUTN*.m.
> 
> Let me know if you need more info.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Kevin,
> > You've talked about sample filer programs? what
> > exactly are they and how could i get to them and
> > which
> > are related to surgical reports?
> > 
> > I feel that the missing link is the
> > transcriptionist.
> > i wonder how he writes in the dictation.
> > So basically it comesdown to how is the
> > transcription
> > entered, or received by
> >   upload?
> > Nick
> > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Nick,
> > > 
> > > I just checked about transcriptionists typing
> > > directly
> > > into CPRS, and yes they can
> > > 1. I had to add OR CPRS GUI..  as a  secondary
> > menu
> > > option.
> > > 2. In CPRS, when creating the note (i.e. "New
> > > Note"),
> > > it will ask for a location and time for the
> note. 
> > > At
> > > the bottom of that dialog, there is a drop-down
> > > field
> > > for Author.  Change that to the name of the
> doctor
> > > dictating the report.  Then the transcriptionist
> > can
> > > type directly into CPRS.  One note, however, is
> > that
> > > as soon as the transcriptionist leaves the note,
> > it
> > > becomes sealed, and a message is displayed "YOU
> > MAY
> > > NOT VIEW THIS UNSIGNED NOTE."  -- i.e. it wants
> > the
> > > Author to sign it before others can view it.  So
> > the
> > > transcriptionists must make all corrections
> needed
> > > before leaving the note.
> > > 
> > > I needed to figure this out for my site too, so
> > > thanks
> > > for the prompting.
> > > 
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Kevin,
> > > > while i was trying to solve this problem,i
> > figured
> > > > that i had not assigned the transcriptionist
> in
> > > the
> > > > transcriptionist user class (TIU). After doing
> > so
> > > i
> > > > have assigned the 'tiu main menu
> transcription'
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > user. I can in the menu select the operation
> > > report,
> > > > but am neither allowed to view it Nor edit it.
> > > > (either
> > > > as the transcriptionist or the author)the
> status
> > > > does
> > > > not change from undictated. How do i link the
> > > report
> > > > to be typed to the transcriptionist?
> > > > 
> > > > Can transcriptionists type directly into CPRS?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Nick.
> > > > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Nick,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I assume, since you are working with a
> > hospital,
> > > > > that
> > > > > you will be using transcriptionists.  This
> is
> > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > issue I am working with right now.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Many transcriptionists prefer to type in
> word
> > > > > processors, rather than into CPRS.  They'll
> > have
> > > > > more
> > > > > tools at their disposal.  So VistA is
> designed
> > > to
> > > > > allow them to prepair a large document with
> > > > multiple
> > > > > patient reports in it.  Each report has a
> > > separate
> > > > > header.  Then the file is uploaded to VistA.
> 
> > > The
> > > > > upload process then scans through the
> document
> > > and
> > > > > identifies each report.  Each report
> specifies
> > > the
> > > > > type of note it is, i.e. SURGICAL NOTE, or
> > > PROGESS
> > > > > NOTE etc.  These note types are set up by
> you.
> > 
> > > > Each
> > > > > note type has a cooresponding filer program.
> 
> > > This
> > > > > is
> > > > > a program that prepairs a document entry in
> > file
> > > > > #8925
> > > > > (TIU DOCUMENT) for the filer to put the
> report
> > > > into.
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > The TIU (Text integration utilities) module
> > has
> > > > some
> > > > > sample filer programs that one can use to
> > > > customize
> > > > > for your location.  I know that one of these
> > > > samples
> > > > > focuses on surgical reports.  It somehow
> ties
> > > the
> > > > > report to the surgical entity in VistA.  I
> > > haven't
> > > > > explored the surgical side of things since I
> > am
> > > > > outpatient here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This doesn't directly answer your question,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > > hope
> > > > > it gives you some background info that
> helps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> 
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