Sometimes old code deserves to be broken! ;-) Actually, my point was that while the language isn't complicated, it's full of idiosyncrasies like this that can throw people off.
--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg, > > I agree that the M way of calculating this is > different from other languages. But you couldn't > change this without breaking old code. I would say, > for good coding practice, that the line be written > like this: > > (2+3)*4 > or > 2+(3*4) > > depending which you were really wanting. > In other words, just make the extra effort to be > clear. > > Kevin > > --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh, that's easy: MUMPS is hard to learn because > > 2+3*4 = 20. > > > > :-) > > > > Can you think of even one other language (using > > infix notation, that > > is) where this is true? (Okay, okay, I don't know > > MIIS, but it might be > > an exception.) > > > > --- "Sowinski, Richard J." > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > When did everyone get so dumb ? You learned M. I > > learned M. When did > > > it all > > > of a sudden get so difficult to learn it ? > > > Are you saying we were smarter than the upcoming > > generation ? I don't > > > think > > > so. > > > > > > The real problem with Vista right now is not the > > language. It is the > > > shear > > > size of it, and the rat's nest of poorly > > documented code > > > under the hood, which is the result of years of > > patching already > > > patched > > > code. I liken it to a huge wad of gum. > > > > > > A redesign in M is as valid as a redesign in any > > other language. In > > > fact, it > > > would be much simpler. VA already has the > > installed base, > > > and the in-house expertise. > > > > > > We'll find out 10 years from now (maybe) when the > > current redesign is > > > finished, how well it works , and how many people > > it takes to > > > support it. > > > > > > Oh yeah, by the way, outsourcing has worked really > > well. CoreFLS was > > > a grand > > > success. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of > > > steven > > > mcphelan > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:06 AM > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] MDC Revival > > > > > > > > > I believe Cameron's statement about the VA > > management not being able > > > to back > > > off of migrating to a newer platform is probably > > very close to the > > > truth. > > > However, I am sure that there were some real > > business management > > > decisions > > > made (or at least I hope so). I saw an article > > recently that > > > estimated that > > > 40-50% of the current VA IT staff will be retiring > > in the next 5 > > > years. If > > > I was a manager of VA IT I would be very concerned > > about that. I > > > would > > > seriously consider moving my technology to a > > platform that enables me > > > to > > > recruit competent IT staff without having to rely > > on in-house > > > training for > > > the next generation of VA IT support. I would > > even consider > > > technology that > > > is inferior to my current technology as long as > > the new technology > > > meets my > > > needs and gives me greater flexibilty in personnel > > matters or provide > > > me the > > > opportunity to competitively outsource some IT > > functions. > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > A practical man is a man who practices the errors of > > his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli > > ==== > > Greg Woodhouse > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > > Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > > Start reading now. > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! 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