Dr. Bones;

   I know what you are going through.  You have hit one of the fatal flaws
of UNICODE, control character (values 0-31, 127) octets (octet=8 bits).  You
might look at ISO-10646, a proposal put forward by the Chinese to
encorporate all of the world's major languages under a four octet (32 bits
per character) character code.  One of the other problems with UNICODE is
that it is heavily Euro-centric and has given marginal thought to the
non-Latin languages (Asian languages have been heavily co-opted).  UNICODE
is a 2 octet (8 bit/octet or a 16 bit code) code and provides a strong drive
to get everybody's character set crammed into that space.  The only way they
can do that is to employ control codes.   Most devices are designed to
support only a single octet or two octet characters.  ISO-10646 specifically
avoids the use of control octets.  All charcter representations are made
with regular octets

  Unfortunately, few systems have accepted the ISO-10646 arrangement (which
actually contains all of UNICODE as a series of planes within it).
Hopefully as more organizations like yours demand representation, ISO-10646
will emerge to supercede UNICODE.  As for MUMPS, GT.M does not necessarily
support ISO-10646, but potentially, it could.  The MUMPS standard was
written with a vague description of what a character is, one octete, two
octets, or 4 octets? It is not specified.  This makes MUMPS the ideal
platform to bridge across the UNICODE/ISO-10646 divide.

   Hope that helps;
    Chris Richardson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doctor Bones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:04 AM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Unicode, Non-english characters and VistA and
other ID means than Social Security


This applies to SemiViva .4 on Linux

I was trying to enter some information in Greek.
I was trying to make a Ward.
And it would not let me use Greek Characters.  It told me that control
characters are illegal.

Select ADT System Definition Menu Option: WArd Definition Entry/Edit

Select WARD LOCATION NAME: ÎÎÎÎÎÎÎ  The input value contains contro
l characters.

Is there anyway around this?
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I know not more than one issue per email but it is related.
I don't want to use Social Security Numbers as ID's
In Greece they use ID Cards which are usualy like Î43242
Or, say I want to use something else entirely.

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.... oh yeah...
Study....

Manolis



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