Thurman,

Thanks for this great info.  It still seems a bit
pricy, but we may have to end up going with it...

Thanks
Kevin

--- Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok. Let me try one more step. Agree there is some
> confusion - T1 has been
> around along time and is used in a variety
> applications (with many name
> modifications). Imagine 24 telphone lines each with
> a 64k modem and bonded
> into one data channel 1.536 mbps. Or just think of a
> trunk with 24
> distributed telephone lines. Both exampls are
> applications of T1. Or you
> could have a T1 with 8 phone lines and the other 1/2
> (768kbps) used as a
> data channel. This only a fraction of the
> versitility of T1. 
> 
> We manage two T1's - one as a connection to an ISP
> (through a firewall) and
> another one point to point at home. Actually, I
> prefer the term "nailed
> down" (also called "private line")T1, "however point
> to point" is more
> common usage. Nailed down is a cleaner term when
> talking with someone who
> knows what it means and it is pretty much considered
> "locked down" and
> secure. 
> 
> The advantage of T1, aside from security, is it has
> been around a long time
> and there is a lot of used equipment at great prices
> (Ebay). We connected
> via AT&T Paradyne DSU and a Ciscopro router (with
> Lan port) for something
> like 25% of what the Telcom charges. We also did our
> own programing and
> wiring (needs a crossover cable), after the Telcom
> installed a Hyperedge
> box. My advantage is to have two sons pretty
> sophisticated in networks and
> telephone systems. 
> 
> Bottom line - T1 has been around a long time and is
> probably the most stable
> of all phone connections. It can be secure, it can
> be connected to public
> networks - not secure. Equipment is affordable. It
> can be "full" T1 or it
> can be fractional (price dependant). The tarrif is
> typically based on how
> far (miles) the line travels. All these iterations
> may pass through multiple
> swithces. It is up to the telcom to assure security.
> Certainly it is more
> secure than a phone conversation.  
> 
> Sorry if trying for brevity confounded things.
> Welcome any comments or
> corrections of this post.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> thurman
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:hardhats-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Cable One
> > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:06 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Hardhats-members] RE: T1s and security
> > 
> > I won't harp on this again... I promise. There
> seems to be a lot of
> > confusion about this and it can have bad
> consequences if the wrong
> > assumptions are made.
> > 
> > Thurman, you're right a T1 is a hardwired (maybe)
> connection between two
> > locations. The network topology that you describe
> is secure because of the
> > topology not because it is a T1. The T1 is just a
> time domain digitally
> > multiplexed carrier of 24 64kb/sec DSOs. These
> DSOs can be agregated for a
> > full 1.54 Mb connection or can be sub-agregated
> (fractional). They can
> > carry
> > voice and/or data.
> > 
> > Let me describe a T1 that is NOT secure. It is the
> one in my office. I
> > have
> > a T1 connection, the other end of which in located
> in the offices of a ISP
> > that belongs to some friends. The have an OC3
> (45Mb/sec) connection that I
> > get to put my mail server on. This T1 is private
> in the sense that it
> > carries only what I put on it, but it is NOT
> secure because it IS part of
> > the public packet switched network we call the
> Internet.
> > 
> > I would not assume that because you have a T1 that
> it is secure and that
> > firewalls are note required. Not to plug my own
> profession too much, but
> > it
> > is a good idea to have a network engineer look at
> your WAN design before
> > you
> > run medical data on it.
> > Thurman's T1, as he describes it, is secure
> because they are bringing the
> > internet into the network through another channel,
> and his T1 is already
> > behind a firewall.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Donald R. Donigan
> > donigan technology, LLC dba
> > Desert CODE Works
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
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