Jim, David, Nancy and Bhaskar,

Thanks for bringing me up to date with 21 century technology - these solutions are very helpful.

I still can't see beyond the few lines that the Google results present without downloading the whole document or HTML translation. For example
using this in a Google search session

site:http://www.va.gov/vdl/  zsystem

yields,

[DOC] BCMA V. 2.0 and This Guide
File Format: Microsoft Word 2000 - View as HTML
CLOSE EXECUTE: U IO K IO(1,IO) C IO ZSYSTEM "lpr -r "_IO. Network printer:. From the Linux menu:. select System Settings then Printing ... www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Pharm-Bar_Code_Med_Admin_(BCMA)/ BCMA_Backup_System_Installation_Guide.doc - Similar pages

Is there a way to extend the context of the search results? I don't see that as part of the extended or advanced features at Google search. I also tried alltheweb.com but that didn't support his feature, nor on Yahoo.

Finally What tool would you recommend to create a fast lookup index of all the documents (hopefully one that is part of the Debian distribution), including the PDF files i.e. on a locally created mirror of the vdl? For that matter how does Google accomplish this? I was looking at Glimpse but apparently it won't index PDF files. Could I use Fileman or some utility from VistA to do this?

Thanks.

Ismet

You simply have to restrict to a specific site.

For Google, put "site:www.va.gov/vdl" in the search box with your term.
Search term:
fileman site:www.va.gov/vdl

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=fileman&as_sitesearch=www.va.gov%2Fvdl

For MSN Search, put "site:www.va.gov" in the search box with your term.
(Msn and Yahoo don't like folders, only specify the domain)
Search term:
fileman site:www.va.gov

http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=fileman+site%3Awww.va.gov


And most of your other search engines will do the same.  (Note: Yahoo
will take the expression in the search box but the Advanced Search
"builder" won't place it there for you to easily see how it works.  The
MSN Search Builder adds it in while you build out your query so you can
mess with the query while building it.)


/David.


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Self
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Searching VistA documentation

What about google?

for instance:
http://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.va.gov+cprs

Ismet B. Kursunoglu wrote:

As I get into the nooks and crannies of VistA I find that it's as vast
and rich as the Pacific ocean. What's more the old adage (which I won't
repeat here) about reading the documentation surely holds true in that
the  VistA Documentation Library (VDL) http://www.va.gov/vdl/ has the
answers to many of my questions.

The problem is that the answers are often contained across many MB's
worth of PDF (total of 625 documents) or html files.  I have
read/searched many of these documents but the going is pretty slow.

I am using shell scripts (like pdfgrep http://blog.rompe.org/pdfgrep)
and other *NIX tools to speed this process up but was wondering if

there

was some "Google like" interface to all this documentation? I know that
some of this is available on the Hardhats site, but I haven't seen any
comprehensive search links - however I could easily have missed them.

I have also been searching this mailing list archive
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ and
generally find them extremely rich in good content but there are no
advanced search functions to be had there. Maybe there is a capability
to download the entire archive of the list, but I don't see it. I also
tried the Sourceforge mail site directly but found it pretty tedious to
use.

Do such search-able sites exist for all the VistA documentation and/or
the Hardhats mailing list?


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Jim Self
Systems Architect, Lead Developer
VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis
(http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself)


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