If you look at the "POINTED TO BY" listing in the VA FileMan Standard Listing you should see 28 different fields in 21 files that "point" (i.e. have the unique foreign key ID for entries) to the IMAGE file 2005. The last entry in standard VistA is for the IMAGE field (#.02) of the TIU EXTERNAL DATA LINK File (#8925.91).
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] TIU Interface for Document Scanning Can you clarify this further? I see that file 2005 (IMAGE file) contains information about the image. But how is this linked to a TIU note, or does it have to be? Kevin --- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The whole Imaging GUI is far more sophistication > than is required. The key > parts to having a relatively simple substitute for > simple document images is > to be able to scan and post the IDs and location of > the image to the IMAGE > file 2005 and post the IEN for the entry to the > pointers in the respective > packages, such as with a TIU note. Then recover the > IEN when desiring the > image in its context and retrieving the relevant > information from file 2005. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kevin > Toppenberg > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] TIU Interface for > Document Scanning > > If we can use document imaging without running afoul > of the FDA, isn't this ability already present? > Wouldn't it just require installing the system? I > guess we would have to find a way to replace the > propriatary componants with open source ones. > > Kevin > > > --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am trying to work on an open source, free > scanning > > solution to work with > > VistA-Office and VistA in general. The impending > > release of VistA-Office > > makes the need for it urgent. > > > > I am thinking about something that would make > broker > > calls to get the patient > > list to help populate a form that includes the > > author, reference date, > > patient, title, and visit (fields .01, > .02,.03,1202, > > and 1301 in file 8925) > > which are the minimum required to define a TIU > > document according to an > > expert I have been pestering. When there is no > real > > visit for a note, an > > event-type visit (historical event) is used for > it. > > For such visits, > > workload is not counted (for VA), which makes it > > less desireable for them, > > but I think of little consequence for VistA users > > outside of the VA. > > > > I think the images can be stored in a web server > > type environment with > > Gallery, and open source program. I think the > > solution should remain largely > > outside of CPRS and VistA to avoid problems with > > patching, etc., especially > > with a revamped version of CPRS on the way and > what > > sounds like other > > replacements for CPRS already out there. > > > > Some of the M routines from VistA imaging have got > > to be involved in > > delivering documents to the TIU for display in > CPRS. > > Can someone please > > point me at those routines? I have spoken with > > someone at the FDA again and > > I am confident we can use some of the code in > those > > routines without adverse > > consequences if our use is only for document > > scanning and not diagnostic work > > and it remains free of charge. > > > > I think if I can pull enough information together, > I > > can probably get the > > folks that have offered to help enough information > > to get them started. The > > solution needs to be cross platform, so Python or > > something else would work > > fine for the interface I would think. > > > > We should be able to do something that is twain > > compliant so scanners that > > have drivers for the operating system being used > at > > the time ought to work. > > > > It is likely that there will be one place in a > > doctor's office where most of > > the scanning is done, so this can be a stand alone > > application except for the > > part where it needs to deliver the info to CPRS > and > > TIU about where the image > > is so it can pop up a crossplatform open source > > browser to view it. I do not > > feel that popup need be within CPRS. In fact, it > > would probably be best if it > > did not happen inside CPRS. > > > > This is a lot to digest and I am open for > criticism, > > information and different > > points of view, so bring it on. > > -- > > Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software > > Conference & EXPO > > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * > > Development Lifecycle Practices > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing > Projects > > & Teams * Testing & QA > > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software > Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * > Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects > & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Hardhats-members mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software > Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * > Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects > & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Hardhats-members mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf _______________________________________________ Hardhats-members mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf _______________________________________________ Hardhats-members mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
