Please understand that code can always be modified to make VOE work, I
did this for one application until I could get a better license. In
general I don't recommend this, the changes modifies the code
controlling the license tracking issued by Intersytems, I don't consider
that a valid option. Which is I why I made the comment that it won't
work with the free version. If anyone chooses to bypass license
requirements to make it work it is their choice.
Robert DeWayne
Technical Lead VOE (VistA Office EHR)
Daou Systems, Inc.
P: (317) 616-4745 C:(317) 727-7477
www.daou.com
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last
value in Y from GETENV
With some minor changes in the code, it should run just fine, and the
changes are comparable to those made in the instructions on Hardhats
early on in the instructions. It involves correcting the Box:Volume
pair name and fixing the VAs license checking routines to function
properly with the single user version.
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 08:43 am, Robert DeWayne wrote:
Sorry I wasn't more specific, yes VOE will run on the free version of
Cache (Cacheweb), but the CPRS GUI will not function. Since the CPRS
GUI is what everyone wants to test, then for all practical purposes
VOE will not function correctly. The terminal capability will
function and therefore the roll and scroll side will work. A great
deal of the functionality that VOE incorporates, such as templates and
reminders, are more GUI based so looking at the software without the
GUI won't show many enhancements.
We have been told that if you want to test the VOE software,
Intersystems will likely produce a 5 user version that will help you
see the strengths of the software. Hope this is a better explanation
than before.
Robert DeWayne
Technical Lead VOE (VistA Office EHR)
Daou Systems, Inc.
P: (317) 616-4745 C:(317) 727-7477
www.daou.com
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Gary Monger
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS:
last value in Y from GETENV
Unimaginable? No.
A single user license is not going to get you full functionality,
however I've run FOIA VistA on the free license, and VistA Office
should work about the same. I didn't have much trouble, but then I
didn't try to do much beyond a little development and testing.
If you just want one user to get in and play around, you can probably
get by with the free license. I think telnet will only work on the
loopback address. I believe the main issue will be how many processes
you'll be able to start.
I think it's a good idea to contact the vendor. Ask them for a free
license that will run it. They will probably give you one.
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last
value in Y from GETENV
That seems unimaginable! In order to test the waters, you have to
contact a vendor?
I know everyone here is shooting for vendor neutrality but I would
like to take a small journey down the "implementing VOE" path.
Let's pretend that I have a third-world country (or a friend named
Bob) that I would like to help. In the past, I could point them over
to (or assist in) setting up Cache/GTM on the server and CPRS on the
client.
No money down and we can get our feet wet.
If I can't use Cache single-user demo, is there a small workgroup
edition or something simple to purchase? The reason why I say
'simple'
is because I can't find a single "buy now" or "price list" at
intersystems.com. I'm sure I have to call a salesman but when I visit
Microsoft at http://www.microsoft.com/sql/default.mspx, the "How to
Buy"
link is second down on the left. At Oracle, the Store link is at the
top. Did I miss something? Shouldn't it be this easy to get the
technology into place?
On that note, has GTM been tested with VOE?
This is not an open-source vs free vs commercial argument. My point
is that we should ensure that VistA is accessible to all those
interested.
My question is - how do I install VOE?
I know VOE isn't available yet - this is in advance of the release.
What can this community can do to assist in making it easily
accessible?
/David.
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -----Original Message-----
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Robert DeWayne
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 10:50 AM
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Cacheweb is a single license version of Cache, VistaOffice (VOE) will
not work with this version.
Robert DeWayne
Technical Lead VOE (VistA Office EHR)
Daou Systems, Inc.
P: (317) 616-4745 C:(317) 727-7477
www.daou.com
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Tyrus Maynard
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] last value in Y from GETENV
I have configuration questions that will require examples from
VistaOffice.
Once a configuration of some flavor of Vista is OK for tinkering with,
I don't linger on issues like the box aka machine aka node (in some
texts).
But I am a little obsessed with where the last piece of the Y string
comes from after it has been set in that famous reference exercise:
D GETENV^%ZOSV
W Y
Here is output from a new install of VistaOffice beta:
EHR>D GETENV^%ZOSV W !,Y
EHR^EHR^HPLAP^EHR:CACHEWEB
Since I want the machine name for my laptop to remain "hplap" for
other uses , This string Y should be "configured" to return:
EHR^EHR^HPLAP^EHR:HPLAP
and this is supposed to be done (I thought) by editing the entry in
Taskman Site Parameters. Conveniently, there is only one entry in the
fresh install, but it's solitary entry name name is not "
EHR:CACHEWEB"
and it doesnt contain "EHR:CACHEWEB" as a field entry.
So where is the last piece of Y ("CACHEWEB") coming from?
If I look in the code, I am *overwhelmed* with %1 defined by:
%1=$ZU(86),%1=$S(%<3.1:$P(%1,"*",3),1:$P(%1,"*",2))
If I go to Taskman Site Parameters in Fileman here is what lives
there.
(I'll use Edit mode for Inquiring) because the verbose ?? help shows
how the last piece has *nothing* to do with what is stored in this
single entry for TaskSiteParam:
Select OPTION: ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES
INPUT TO WHAT FILE: TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS// EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL//
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ??
EHR:CACHE
You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish
The value for the current account is EHR:CACHEWEB Your answer
should
be the volume set name concatenated with ":"
concatenated with the name of the CPU.
The value for the current process can be found by doing
GETENV^%ZOSV
and checking the fourth ^-piece of Y. This allows the TaskMan
site parameters to be applied extremely precisely, depending both upon
which volume set and cpu which is affected.
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: `1 EHR:CACHE
BOX-VOLUME
PAIR: EHR:CACHE//
RESERVED:
LOG TASKS?: NO//
DEFAULT TASK PRIORITY: 7//
TASK PARTITION SIZE: 100//
SUBMANAGER RETENTION TIME: 20//
TASKMAN JOB LIMIT: 100//
TASKMAN HANG BETWEEN NEW JOBS: 5//
MODE OF TASKMAN: GENERAL PROCESSOR//
VAX DSM ENVIROMENT FOR DCL:
OUT OF SERVICE: NO//
MIN SUBMANAGER CNT: 1// ^
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ^ Select OPTION:
Maybe I am supposed to be asking where the value for "CPU" lives
which has a context called "account" by whoever wrote the ??help. The
help gives a contextual citation of this same value ...where does it
live?
Must it be edited wherever it lives?
But this is from Openvista docs:
"A machine is mainly something to hook onto some VA TaskMan
configuration parameters. The terms machine, CPU, box, or node are
commonly used interchangeably."
Thanks for help in the murky depths of Vista configuration
RustyMaynard
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