ScreenMan was originally introduced into Fileman to provide a
convenient mechanism for edciting an entire record at once. It's an
alternative to the familiar, one field at a time, "roll and scroll"
style of editing. It was not intended to be a general purpose UI
toolkit. If you want something more flexible, I'd recommend looking at
List Manager or developing your own tool using XGF rather than trying
to "manhandle" ScreenMan into doing what you want.

--- Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good points. You have to do a resident save command to trigger the
> action -
> we program a single key to do the save (for instance "F12^[Ops")
> accomplishes this. If you want to see the final result you would need
> to
> execute the save command. 
> 
> The two major weaknesses in ScreenMan are the need to exit the screen
> before
> you can load a new record (that isn't so bad). The other is one
> cannot load
> a record in strict inquiry mode. So if you have a screen with
> multiple
> blocks and records loaded then try to load from another terminal it
> that
> record is locked. The other complication occurs when you move to a
> new
> page/block with a locked record, the system may do an unwelcome exit
> losing
> data.
> 
> If these two problems were fixed, I think ScreenMan would be a lot
> more
> popular. I still like it a lot. 
> 
> thurman 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:hardhats-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steven mcphelan
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:36 AM
> > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to select another record in
> ScreenMan
> > form?
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "steven mcphelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to select another record in
> ScreenMan
> > form?
> > 
> > 
> > > This cannot be done safely.  Remember, Screenman has established
> many,
> > many
> > > local. private variables that have specific meaning.  There is no
> tool I
> > am
> > > familiar with that tells Screenman to do a total environment
> refresh
> > while
> > > still inside the original screenman form for a particular record
> number.
> > > Remember, to enter a form you must first select a record and then
> enter
> > the
> > > form.   I am sure that Fileman has initialized some local private
> > variables
> > > here prior to launching the M code that actually does the
> screenman form
> > > display.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thurman Pedigo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:09 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] How to select another record in
> > ScreenMan
> > > form?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am not an advanced user and not sure if this will work in
> your case.
> > > > However, I use triggers pretty extensively to populate, or
> change
> > fields,
> > > in
> > > > ScreenMan. You can make the field trigger conditional based on
> factors
> > > such
> > > > as whether the field already contains data. You could trigger
> the
> > field
> > > > anytime the HRN changes. You just need to be sure you are
> addressing
> > the
> > > > appropriate record.
> > > >
> > > > thurman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:hardhats-
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Usha
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:08 PM
> > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to select another record
> in
> > > ScreenMan
> > > > > form?
> > > > >
> > > > > We are trying to make a ScreenMan form for adding/editing a
> patient.
> > The
> > > > > unique identifier for a patient is the Hospital Record Number
> (HRN)
> > > field
> > > > > from the IHS PATIENT file. When the HRN changes, the record
> of the
> > > patient
> > > > > being accessed must change accordingly. I have been able to
> create a
> > > > > routine
> > > > > which would return the IEN number of the patient record on
> passing
> > the
> > > > > HRN.
> > > > > When the form is run for the first time, the patient data can
> be
> > > accessed
> > > > > through the HRN. But later if the HRN changes, the patient
> record
> > being
> > > > > accessed does not change.
> > > > > Any idea how this can be done?
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Usha
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:38 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to select another record
> in
> > > ScreenMan
> > > > > form?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When I went through the video tutorials on Screenman, I got
> the
> > > > > impression that what you are wanting can't be done.  But
> there might
> > > > > be much more power under the cover that I am not aware of.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you describe the application you are wanting?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/27/05, Usha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a ScreenMan form, how can I change the record being
> accessed
> > > > > everytime
> > > > > > the value of a field changes?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Usha
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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