Cameron,

Thanks.  This file is one that may need to be updated 3-6 times a
year.  Should we work on making this process more automatic?

Kevin

On 11/22/05, Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Load the VistA FOIA into a scratch account and pick up the table entries
> from that.  Double-check but I think that as part of the National Drug File
> set of tables, the Names and IENs should be the same as what you have in
> your VA PRODUCT file as they are only to be edited centrally by VHA.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:12 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I get an up to date VA PRODUCT file?
>
> I think what you are describing is file #50, the DRUG file, that seems
> to be the local formulary file.  But I am pretty sure that the VA
> PRODUCT file contains every possible pharmacy item known to man.  And
> this is used then to populate file#50.
>
> Kevin
>
> On 11/22/05, Mike Schrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kevin,
> >
> > There may not be a single, all inclusive drug list. Different VA
> > hospitals have very different formularies. We frequently see patients
> > from other parts of the country asking for refills of prescriptions
> > obtained at their home VA that are not listed in our VISN2 Vista order
> > list. The local IRM people may load data with input from the local P&T
> > committee. Once a drug is in the file it stays there, even if it's taken
> > off the list, but many new drugs don't show up unless they are added to
> > the local formulary.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> > > I am (still) trying to work with the pharmacy system.  It may be good
> > > for pharmacist, but it is being quite a headache for me.
> > >
> > > As a review, the file that contains every possible pharmacy item is
> > > the VA PRODUCT  file (50.68).  If a drug is not in this file, then a
> > > physician will not be able to order it.
> > >
> > > This means that for every new drug that comes on the market, one must
> > > somehow upgrade this file and then "install" the new additions to the
> > > sytem.
> > >
> > > This area is rife for a pharmacy support contract, which Mark has
> > > gearing up to provide.
> > >
> > > But in the mean time, I want to explore working with this myself. But
> > > I want a current VA PRODUCT file.
> > >
> > > So where do I get an up to date one.  I am guessing that the answer is
> > > via the patch stream.  But I'm not clear on exactly how to procede.  I
> > > looked on the VDL and found several different documentation areas, and
> > > wasn't sure which way to go.  I read the one on installing the
> > > "NATIONAL DRUG FILE", but it seemed to be more about converting from
> > > the old system to the new, than about keeping one's VA PRODUCT file up
> > > to date.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Kevin
> > >
>
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