At 11:45 AM 4/21/2005, you wrote:
How about keep the batch file zipped up in an encrypted zip file.

How would it run from scheduler inside a zip file?

There is really no way that I can think of to hide a key from a batch file
unless the batch file runs a program that can decrypt an encrypted key and
can then call WinZip with the information.

If you compile the script into a encrypted exe it would be protected. I can do that but I don't trust the program I am currently using to produce exe's that can't be de compiled.


If this is on an NTFS partition, you might could make the file hidden and
give rights to only yourself for read/write/etc.

Then anybody who is logged in as me or administrator could see it. Windows passwords are easy to hack



Bobby

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Subject: [H] Programers


I know there are a number of programers on this list.

I have a data partition, that I backup using a batch file, and Winzip 9
command line. It is a simple batch file, that collects my email programs,
all my data files, zips them all up up and encrypts them using 256 AES. I
end up with around a 2GB encrypted zip file. I have it scheduled to run
every night and then every couple of weeks upload it to my personal FTP
server, at my company, at a out of state location.

The problem is that anybody who looks at the batch file sees the 60
character AES key.
Anybody who has physical access to the computer has access to the key.  How
to I compile and encrypt this so it can not be de-compiled and hacked?

I know that I could encrypt the data partition, and then only need to back
up the single encrypted image file. In fact, I am using a mounted Blowfish
encrypted data drive, one for my data, and one for my email. I am zipping
up the contents of those drives while they are mounted. So I need only copy
the image files to another drive in order to back them up.

You are wondering why I don't just copy the blowfish image files as a
backup. Because In order to access them, after the computer burned up in
fire, or was stolen, or whatever, I would have to install the encryption
program in another computer, and mount the drives, and then cross my
fingers that there are no glitches or anomalies.

A zip file is a universal compression format, and Winzip has been around
forever, and works on any version of windows. All I have to do is protect
the key with the rest of my keys, and passwords, and restore the zip file
on any windows box. I like to keep my backups simple, as well as secure. I
have had too many failures, over the years with 3rd party backup programs.
Unless you are testing them all the time you can never be sure that they
will work the day you need them.

A few years ago I bought a little program that is suppose to compile and
encrypt batch files, ...it is no longer around. I used to protect my
scripts on customers computers, but I discovered a funny thing. When I ran
scripts in exe form on a 98 box, that were written to run Norton Utilities
System Works utilities... virus scan, disk doctor, speed disk..... I would
find a collection of numbered text files in the root directory with my
plain as day script file. The guy I bought the encrypted compiler never
replied to my question about how this could happen.

so any thoughts on how I can protect the key in this batch file?

thanks
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