It was taken from a conversation about gun laws, which I follow closely
because I'm a firm believer in the 2nd amendment. I liked the quote so much
I use it often. Fits this tangent perfectly.
Violent behavior like murder and rape will always happen in spite of tough
laws. That is because they are committed by inherently violent, deviant
people. The best that law can do is prevent these violent people from
committing more rape and murder by either locking them up or charbroiling
them on old sparky. Everybody else has an instinctive moral code that
perceives murder and rape as wrong without a law or fairy tale dictating so.
It is my opinion that personal use of a substance in the privacy of your own
home does not make you a violent person, nor a threat to anybody else accept
maybe yourself. We already have plenty of laws in place to punish anybody
for harm done on somebody else (or risking harm on somebody else) while
under the influence of a substance.
Marijuana laws send a mixed signal because two drugs that are more harmful,
alcohol and chemically treated tobacco, are allowed to be sold over the
counter. You ever hear about a raging pot head beating his wife? No, but we
see plenty of violent drug dealers, just like the moonshiners and mafia
filth of yesteryear. Legitimate, government regulated commerce of their
product takes away the criminal element.
You may want to inquire about how government provisioned marijuana is
farmed. There is no involvement from the usual criminal elements of the
illegal drug trade whatsoever.
From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]>
To: The Hardware List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:06:05 -0500
Draw that conclusion for me Hayes. You do not think that punishment
serves to prevent? I also find it interesting that you would turn to
Liddy to try and find support for your position..
-Gary
Hayes Elkins said the following on 8/25/2005 4:12 PM:
> "In general, laws *punish* crime - they do not *prevent* crime."
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> - GG Liddy
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>
>> From: Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]>
>> To: The Hardware List <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices
>> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:44:03 -0500
>>
>> How many of those in jail for drugs are helpless Grandma's and
>> teenagers? Simple question, do the drug laws deter usage? What else
>> are they supposed to do? I suppose we should eliminate laws against
>> theft too since they would also fail your definition of success.
>>
>> -Gary
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>> j m g said the following on 8/25/2005 3:08 PM:
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>> >I don't think locking up grandma and idiot teenagers is the mark of a
>> >successful policy.
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>> >On 8/25/05, Gary Udstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> >>Of course it is up to you to define successful?
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>> >>-Gary
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>> >>Thane Sherrington said the following on 8/25/2005 3:07 PM:
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>> >>>At 04:56 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote:
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>> >>>
>> >>>>Your problem is you have failed to define working. If by working
>> you
>> >>>>mean are they acting as a deterrent, then they are working. If
>> you are
>> >>>>defining working as the complete eradication of drugs from
>> society then
>> >>>>you are creating nothing more than a canard.
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>> >>>>
>> >>>I think working is pretty easy to define: A free society where
>> people
>> >>>take responsibility for their actions, and tax dollars aren't wasted
>> >>>on things that are completely unsuccessful.
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>> >>>T
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