I rarely disagree with your take on matters technical Wayne, but I do here.

I have built and I currently maintain several dozen websites. Most of them 
pretty simple jobs using a CMS to reduce the amount of hand coding required.
In every case I use NO email links at all. They all use forms for the primary 
means of contact. In the 10 or so contacts a day I get from those sites, I have 
had no complaints about using a form, and - this is the important bit - NO spam 
on the addresses those forms send to. Many of these sites have been up for 2-3 
years.

I've used all the hex and JS tricks to 'hide' email addresses. Some work better 
than others, but all of them ultimately fail and those addresses will attract 
spam sooner or later. The spambots are getting very sophisticated  these days 
and these simple tricks are not fooling them.

You may not ever learn to love it, but learn to put up with the form, for the 
moment it's here to stay...  ;-)

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Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia

http://westserve.org - Blog, Christianity, Coffee and Tech Stuff.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 8:09 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Web authoring question - protecting email addresses

At 10:28 AM 12/21/2005, Thane Sherrington (S) typed:
>That's true, but how likely is that?  And since by putting the email 
>link in the html, they guarantee that email address will be flooded 
>with spam, the chance of your message getting deleted or blocked 
>goes up.  The best system would be a form that sends you a copy of 
>your form data.  Several sites, such as Symantec, do this already.

My point is that peeps should have someplace to email & not this form 
shit so why don't more sites use HEX or Images for addies instead of 
one way forms. If they would use 2 way forms then I wouldn't care. I 
guess I'm like a elephant as I've never forgotten the time that supt 
accused me of saying something that I didn't & of course they all 
send back scripted shite.

Even forms need to use cgi, java or something instead of 
incorporating the email addy in the html that the form is sent to so 
it's really no we're back to square one. Why don't they use the same 
cgi or java to hide email addresses ? I know why. It's because it's 
all about gathering data for anal-is-sis  & forms provide the easiest 
method for that. :-(


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    Wayne D. Johnson
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