? You know, whether Jesus was deity or man is really irrelevant! He still 
? changed the world for the better and he was exactly right about love and 
? tolerance being the answer. @:D>

While I agree with your conclusion (mostly) Stan, Jesus himself didn’t allow 
for the first comment (Read Matthew 11:25-28 amongst other places)

Regards

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Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske
Sent: Friday, 23 December 2005 4:45 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

It is presumptive of us to sit in judgment of Evolution when we don't 
have all the facts. Remember that science is always evolving our 
understanding of the way things *really* work.

You know, whether Jesus was deity or man is really irrelevant! He still 
changed the world for the better and he was exactly right about love and 
tolerance being the answer. @:D>


Gary VanderMolen wrote:
>> At 03:49 PM 22/12/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
>>
>>>>> Of course we are supposed to use the (limited) logic we have. Even
>>>>> ants have logic, but can you explain the theory of relativity to an 
>>>>> ant?
>>>>> Humans may be a little smarter than ants, but our capability to
>>>>> understand things like higher dimensions is very limited.
>>>>
>>>> But I've never said to an ant "Act this way, and I'll get you into 
>>>> heaven."  Plus we were given reason, the ability to discern between 
>>>> good and evil.
>>>
>>>
>>> And your point is...?
>>
>>
>> That your argument that one can't compare the relationship between an 
>> ant and a human and the supposed relationship between man and god.  
> 
> 
> My argument is that the difference in intelligence level between man
> and ant is at least as large as the difference between man and God.
> Since it's no surprise that the ant can't understand man's designs,
> so likewise it should be no surprise that man can't fully understand or
> appreciate God's designs.
> 
>>  Saying that ants don't understand what we are doing (which is a 
>> conclusion you have no proof of, btw) and therefore we shouldn't 
>> expect to have any understanding of god makes no sense, and isn't an 
>> argument.
> 
> 
> I never said that we don't have any understanding of God.
> Our understanding of him is limited, because humans are not omniscient.
> It is presumptive of us to sit in judgment of God when we don't have
> all the facts.
> 
> 
> Gary VanderMolen
> 
> 
> 


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