Years ago we held a drawing for a side of beef and other items. We sold 250 
tickets. 1 person had 50 of them. He didn't win anything. While his odds as an 
individual were better then any other indicidual his odds were never better 
then the field

CW

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Veech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:42:27 
To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,       "The Hardware List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [H] Odds calculator

that's not exactly what I'm looking for.  Let me put it this way...

Take a deck of cards, remove the aces.  Shuffle thoroughly.  Select 12 cards 
at random of the 48.  What are the odds that *none* of the 12 cards you 
selected will be face cards?


>
> Let's look at the probability that someone NOT in your group wins.
>
> Probability = Number of people NOT in your group/total number of people
>
> First Pick: 186/254 = 73.2%
> Last Pick: 175/243 = 72.0%
> (assuming once the name is picked, it is not put back)
>
> So, the odds of a non staff member being picked remain at about 72.5% for
> all drawings.
>
> The larger group that does not include your staff will always have a 
> higher
> chance of winning. I think you have fallen into the probability trap that
> assumes that the events are dependent on each other. Each drawing is in
> fact, independent of the previous drawings, so the chance of a non-staff
> member being selected is always the number of the non-staff members
> remaining divided by the total number of people remaining.
>
> See
> http://www.mathsrevision.net/gcse/pages.php?page=32
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jim Maki
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 


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