Chuck-

Just as an ask, I see your xp home price but Xp Pro @ $150?  Where are you 
buying 3 packs?  :) :). Just saying you can do better then that

But if your customer buys home (activates it) and then decides they need pro in 
30 days, something is wrong. Either they didn't do research at the beginning - 
like not realizing Home wouldn't do as a workstation in a domain - or something 
similar. I'm trying to think of what big picture XP pro gains them really for 
most home users

You use your example to ms but I could use it with anyone. Someone buys 
photoshop elements and within 30 days realize they need photoshop. Too bad, 
they just end up with both. I decide I want an Ipod nano 4gb and two weeks 
later discover a new version is out with 6. Too bad I will just end up with 
both.  The consumer is not forced to spend the money, they elect to spend the 
money

But there are alternatives.  I shipped a pc last week...  x6800s....  Running 
Mandriva 2007.

But as I tried to say this is why I also think this is apples big shot to grow 
in market influence and definitely create buzz in their stock.

CW

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Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 20:56:45 
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Subject: Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation


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From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [H] MS gets serious about activation


> It was just an example. MS appears to be planning availability of retail 
> upgrade versions for each variation of Vista, including Ultimate.
>

Naturally Microsoft wants to sell 2 operating systems for as many computers 
as possible. They only get paid decently on OEM versions if a small OEM buys 
it. To make big bucks on a Dell Microsoft has to sell an upgrade to the OEM 
operating system they practically gave to Dell. I anticipate the OEM version 
of Vista that is most widely adopted for new computers will cost us small 
OEM's $180.00 compared to $90.00 for XP Home OEM, and Dell, practically 
nothing.

Your comments were about Microsoft doing those desiring an upgrade a "favor" 
as in service, as in a bull servicing a cow. Example:

My example assumes everyone plays by the rules, the EULA or whatever you 
call the greasless screw.

I, a member of the Microsoft OEM System Builder Program, sold a new computer 
with Windows XP Home OEM installed. In 30 days my customer decides he wants 
Windows XP Professional. My OEM version of Windows XP Professional costs 
$150.00. Can't do that as it is an already existing computer which has had 
its "DNA" sent to Microsoft when Windows XP Home OEM was authenticated on 
it. The only version of XP Professional this 30 day old computer qualifies 
for is the Upgrade Version. No problem. It costs $180.00. So my customer 
goes to the store and spends $180.00 for the Upgrade version. Since I was 
outraged about this royal screwing, I called Microsoft to confirm that I was 
reading the rules correctly and Microsoft confirmed that I was correct. I 
argued with Microsoft for a few minutes as they repeated, "Only the retail 
version of Windows XP Professional Upgrade version can be legally installed 
on this existing computer."

Case closed. Customer has spent $270.00 on Windows in 30 days. Is this 
rigged or what?? So, as you said, "MS appears to be planning availability of 
retail
upgrade versions for each variation of Vista, including Ultimate." I am sure 
they are! $$$$$$$$$$$$

Chuck




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