You and Chris are misinterpreting what I wrote. I never once stated I was comparing the 965 to the 975. I'm comparing the 965 (and ICH8/R) to the competing 680i, RD600, AND to an enthusiast-grade chipset that Intel SHOULD have that is native for C2D/C2Q. They simply don't have one; that's the problem.
And overclocking is very much dependent upon the chipset...not sure where you got that idea. PATA on 965 boards is handled by a separate controller, as ICH8/R make no provision for them. To me, that's a big strike. The same problem exists with Ethernet. The ICH8/R lacks any onboard Ethernet controller, so it has to be provided by an add-on chip. That's why most 965 boards only have one Ethernet port. Another strike. Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > > You mean more than one x16 PCIe lane, right? That's the one edge a 975 board > has over a 965. > > As far as the rest, that is simply not correct. Performance? It's the only > intel chipset that officially supports DDR2-800. Overclocking headroom? > That's completely based on the manufacturer's design, nothing to do with the > chipset. ICH8 is only found on 965 and NOT the 975. PATA is an option on > many 965 boards. And find me a 965 that *doesnt* have ethernet. > > >From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]> > >To: "'The Hardware List'" <[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:42:36 -0600 > > > >More than 16 PCIe lanes, performance, overclocking headroom... (the rest > >are > >really ICH8/R:) any PATA channels, Ethernet... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:28 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]> > > > >To: "'The Hardware List'" <[email protected]> > > > >Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > > > >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:33:09 -0600 > > > > > > > >The big problem with Intel's offerings is that only the 965 is really > > > >designed for C2D, but the 965 is a mid-level (non-enthusiast) chipset. > >It's > > > >solid, but lacks some features. > > > > > > Like what? > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces > >friends > > > list. > > > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://sp > a > >c > > > es.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered > by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
