OK :) Those are valid points. The more I play with the 680i, though, the more that it's hard to argue with it being the definitive "it" board.
CW -----Original message----- From: "Greg Sevart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:22:21 -0600 To: "'The Hardware List'" [email protected] Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > You and Chris are misinterpreting what I wrote. I never once stated I was > comparing the 965 to the 975. I'm comparing the 965 (and ICH8/R) to the > competing 680i, RD600, AND to an enthusiast-grade chipset that Intel SHOULD > have that is native for C2D/C2Q. They simply don't have one; that's the > problem. > > And overclocking is very much dependent upon the chipset...not sure where > you got that idea. > > PATA on 965 boards is handled by a separate controller, as ICH8/R make no > provision for them. To me, that's a big strike. > > The same problem exists with Ethernet. The ICH8/R lacks any onboard Ethernet > controller, so it has to be provided by an add-on chip. That's why most 965 > boards only have one Ethernet port. Another strike. > > Greg > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:49 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > > > > You mean more than one x16 PCIe lane, right? That's the one edge a 975 > board > > has over a 965. > > > > As far as the rest, that is simply not correct. Performance? It's the only > > intel chipset that officially supports DDR2-800. Overclocking headroom? > > That's completely based on the manufacturer's design, nothing to do with > the > > chipset. ICH8 is only found on 965 and NOT the 975. PATA is an option on > > many 965 boards. And find me a 965 that *doesnt* have ethernet. > > > > >From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]> > > >To: "'The Hardware List'" <[email protected]> > > >Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > > >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:42:36 -0600 > > > > > >More than 16 PCIe lanes, performance, overclocking headroom... (the rest > > >are > > >really ICH8/R:) any PATA channels, Ethernet... > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:28 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Reply-To: The Hardware List <[email protected]> > > > > >To: "'The Hardware List'" <[email protected]> > > > > >Subject: RE: [H] Best Core2 Duo mobo? > > > > >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:33:09 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >The big problem with Intel's offerings is that only the 965 is really > > > > >designed for C2D, but the 965 is a mid-level (non-enthusiast) > chipset. > > >It's > > > > >solid, but lacks some features. > > > > > > > > Like what? > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces > > >friends > > > > list. > > > > > > > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://sp > > a > > >c > > > > es.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered > > by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > > >
