I hate 'em too.  That's one of the reasons this new box has the Intel
board, it has a passive heatsink on the chipset. 

After I had to replace the fan on the chipset of my old Abit board 3 times
in 3 years, it was not something I wanted to mess with again.  

The PS in this box has a very slow moving 120mm fan which is basically
silent, one of the reasons why I chose it.   And the whole box runs so
cool, the CPU fan is only running 900-1000 rpm right now and is also
basically inaudible.

That's why I am so pissed at this Vista thing, the box is dead silent in XP
unless playing games, which is fine since the game sounds cover up the
noise anyhow, but with that new nVidia driver, the damn fan runs all the
time even on the desktop.  

I have no idea when nVidia is going to add fan control to their Vista
drivers, but it's not there right now.  

nHance, Rivatuner, nTune, non of them have fan control in Vista, but do
have in XP.

Running XP now anyhow after the re-build and the quiet is nice.  Speed
boost is nice too.  Maybe someday nVidia will fix their drivers.





>>We're not the only ones. Notice the shift to heat pipe solutions across the 
>>spectrum by mainstream manufacturers. The new P35 boards I've seen so far 
>>are HEAVY thanks to multiple heat pipe routing across the pcb. I'll take 
>>weight over a bunch of little chipset fans buzzing. Both AMD and Intel 
>>utilize heatpipe coolers to avoid a snowblower on top. And Dell has been 
>>using heatpipes for a good while now.
>>
>>I think peak noise hit the fan (ho ho ho) right before Y2K where it seemed 
>>every l33t modder or case company put out a box that looked like it got hit 
>>by shrapnel and the holes were plugged up with 5000rpm case fans. I never 
>>caught on to the jet engine under your desk trend, I guess I was alone in 
>>this view for years because many people still thought overclocking was 
>>worthwhile.
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