Duncan,

For hardware/BIOS/drivers that old, wouldn't it be fairly simple just to get
a bare-bones DOS config going with the SCSI and then do an "upgrade" to
WIN2K?

Just a thought.

_jim

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DHSinclair
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:54 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] still using scsi?


Thane,
Understand, but I need to check my psyche first. :)
I suspect the trouble really lies deep inside some very, very, old
circa 1997 hdw that just might be too stupid to deal with modern processes.
But, to begin, here are some bits to start the juices....... LOL!

Machine is a Micron Millennia PPro2, chenbro heavy steel tower case.  The
I/O
cards at the moment are a Matrox Millennium 2, and an Adaptec 2940UW that I
am certain is an OEM card contracted to Micron, with very old bios
v1.23.  This I
recall is a glitch because this bios will not allow bus speeds below
20MB/sec and
I suspect I may have wimpy scsi cdroms that can NOT do 20MB/sec synchronous
data xfrs. (my first suspicion).  (I am still digging in my scsi bone pile
for an old
2940UW w/newer bios installed.....).

The m/b is called a "Lightning RevB Dual P-6."  There is one Intel PPro
200MHz/256KB
installed.  I searched and found 4x 128MB non-ECC Dimms for this
turkey.  Bios is now
set for "non-parity" RAM.  512MB is the max this m/b can work with.  Maybe
not
gracefully, but it does count it all w/o errors and works in Post.  (I may
still pull 2 Dimms
and retry all this with just 256MB of RAM).
Do not have the m/b maker ATM.  Have to go research again....but believe it
is some 2d/3d
tier maker.....Duh!

Using an eide cdrom is tough.  The PC's bios does not acknowledge a
"bootable"
cdrom.  Even the cmos setup on the first bios page looks like HD-only for
any/all IDE
channels.  I have set all IDE channels to [auto] just for S&Gs.  If I cold
boot this turkey
with a Win2K boot CD in place in the eide cdrom, Post/Bios blows right on
by to an
error about no OS on c:/......Duh.  At least this much works!.... LOL!

Thankfully the scsi cdrom is fully "bootable."  But, so far, I can not get
either W2K or WinXP
to install/boot from it w/o a fatal error.  And these are CDs I've used to
install all my other
systems with. I'm going to try and throttle back my narrow scsi bus (my
second suspicion).

Off to dig in my bone pile...........
Thank you for you interest.
Best,
Duncan

At 14:28 06/13/2007 -0400, you wrote:

>At 04:57 PM 13/06/2007, Al Anger wrote:
>
>>DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > If anyone still uses scsi hds and cdrom, I have some questions
>> > I'd like to ask offlist.
>>
>>I think it's okay to ask here; but if you want just email me.
>
>Ask it here - that way, everyone gets to learn.
>
>T
>
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