Brian,
All I can offer to this discussion is, "Assumption is the mother of all future bad things."
Well, I cleaned it up a bit...... :)
Point being, Ben is correct. The "Vista Capable" means just the basic code base. Nothing more. If the "buyer" assumes anything else at the point of purchase; well, that is a trip to buyer's remorse by my logic. I've already lived through this with MS-DOS, W3.11, W95, OSR2, W98, W98se, and NT3.51. No harm, no foul. I am still backward just because I still use W2KproSP4. Yes, I know I will have to move forward. Someday. And, (even though I do not like it much) it may be to WinXPspx; if it still exists. {maybe not}. My other alternatives are OSx or some form of *nix. Of this I am sort of certain.
Best,
Duncan

At 16:57 02/25/2008 -0500, you wrote:
I agree with you.  But you'd still be pretty pissed if you spent $2,000 on a
new PC in November 2007 and find out that you have to buy a new one in two
months later to run the full windows Vista when the salesmen assured you
that it was "Vista Capable".  It was all about driving Christmas sales of
PCs even though Vista wasn't shipping until after the holidays.

Like I said, when the judge said the lawsuit has to argue whether Vista
Basic is still Vista, that's a win for Microsoft.

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Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation


On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't agree. It's still the Vista code base. It has more "features"
> and changes from XP.
>
> A BMW 3 series is still a BMW, despite it not having all of the features
> of the 7 series.
>
> Vista Basic is designed for cheap/low-end PC's, so it's not like they'd
> be able to run Aero. Is a cheap home PC going to back up to a network
> share? It's likely to be the only PC in the house. I'm not sure about
> DX10, but again, is it going to be a gaming PC with a crap video card?
> Games? Oh no, no Chess Titans! And Vista Meeting? What's that - the
> replacement for Netmeeting? Is the target demographic going to care
> about it?
>
> If any version of Vista will boot and run on the thing, it's "Vista
> Capable" in my book.
>
> Brian Weeden wrote:
> > To repeat what was posted before, Basic has:
> >
> > * No Aero (the cool glassy GUI for Vista)
> > * No backup to anything but local
> > * No DirectX10
> > * Doesn't come with new Vista games and themes
> > * Windows Vista Meeting not present
> >
> > In other words, Vista Basic has none of the "features" that make Vista a
> new
> > OS and is very limited in how you can use it.  And if your PC was
> labeled
> > "Vista Capable" you can't run full Vista on it, only the Basic version.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Brian Weeden
> > Technical Consultant
> > Secure World Foundation
>

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