Unknown how the emails were obtained as of yet.  All I have read is that
they were introduced into the court session as evidence.  A few were read
out and then the rest were sealed until the session starts up again on
Monday.

If the judge allowed them to be introduced as actual evidence I would assume
that they were obtained legally, but we will have to see.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:44 PM, The Beave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Brian,
>
> I know the pain about lowering graphics requirements for Vista, I have a
> MPC
> that is almost unusable with Vista Premium.  Although, plays videos and
> songs very nicely. Too bad no video games though. My laptop is a XPS Gen 2
> and it is still going strong with Vista Ultimate installed (Installed it
> because of work requirements).
>
> The total opposite can be said for my gaming computer. It has Windows
> Vista
> Ultimate and it runs just as fast as it did with XP MCD. Of course this
> computer has upper end gear though. Only thing I am pissed about is
> Directsound and the inability to decode 5.1 on SD-PIF. But, alas I live
> with
> it.
>
> I have a question though, were did the e-mails come from? Did Microsoft
> give
> them freely or was there a court order for them?  I did not remember
> anything of mentioning that.  If they have not been given freely by
> Microsoft or a court order was used the person that handed them can be
> charged for theft of the e-mails, since the e-mail belong to Microsoft.
>
> I have personally seen cases of people brought to court for illegally
> using
> company e-mail for personal and/or illegal use. My job gets me into those
> situations sometimes :(
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim "The Beave" Lider
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [H] Vista class action
>
> The plot thickens.  158 pages of internal Microsoft emails on the
> matter have turned up as part of the court discovery process.  This
> page has a good overview as well as links to the whole pdf:
>
> http://apcmag.com/8344/has_vista_lost_all_credibility
>
> Some gems:
>
> "In the end, however, the need to placate other hardware vendors
> became a major factor -- particularly Intel, which was keen to keep
> selling its 915 graphics chipset, which couldn't handle Aero at that
> point. 'In the end, we lowered the requirement to help Intel make
> their quarterly earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards
> with 915 graphics embedded," general manager John Kalkman wrote. "It
> was a mistake on our part to change the original graphics
> requirements.'"
>
> "In an email to Ballmer, Steven Sinofsky wrote, 'No one really
> believed we would ever ship, so they didn't start the work until late
> 2006. This led to lack of availability. For example, my home
> multi-function printer did not have drivers until 2/2 and even pulled
> their drivers and re-released them [Brother].'"
>
> "Sinofsky continued, 'Massive changes in the underpinning for video
> and audio led to a really poor experience at RTM, especially with
> respect to Windows Media Center. This change led to incompatibilities.
> For example, you don't get Aero with an XP [graphics] driver, but your
> card might not (ever) have a Vista driver.'"
>
> That last one many of us saw coming a mile away, as Microsoft was
> forced to re-write the entire audio/video subsystem at the last minute
> to placate the Hollywood crowd and allow for HD playback.
>
> ---
> Brian
>
>
>

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