Thane,
OK, I completely misunderstood your point until this addition. My apologies
completely. And, I suppose I never did understand the full background of
Winterlight's original share. Again, my bad.
As, this seems to maybe now focused on X64, it is possible that much of
this kerfuffle is somewhat similar to all the hoopla back when personal
computers and sw changed from x8 to x16 to x32? I just do not see x64
anytime in my future ATM. Sorry.
Perhaps Intel is being a bit pissy about Vista support, but Intel does have
a broader support horizon than MS does. Intel does have to try and maintain
compatibility across many operating system. I do understand that MS does
have to worry about its' code playing-nice on various hdw mfgs wares, but
due to MS' stature as the 600# gorilla, it seems like most hdw mfgs remain
acutely aware of the gorilla, and build accordingly. Intel notwithstanding!
JMHO.
Maybe what is beyond Vista is possible (as I hear that XP leaves the
shelves on Monday 6/03). Until then, W2Ksp4 is fully solid for me. I have
now had experience with 11 MS os's between hobby-time at home and working
years at Xerox and the USArmy. Once MS support for W2K stops, I will just
find another hobby; or, maybe trade in all my Windows toys in and buy a MAC.
Best,
Duncan
culpaAt 09:37 06/27/2008 -0300, you wrote:
Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I'm not a Vista fan. I agree with Intel sticking
XP. I was just pointing out why MS might be irritated with Intel. (There
is also the fact that when the biggest CPU vendor ignores your latest OS,
that's not a good sign.) Of course, MS is selling Vista with the slogan
"But you can downgrade to XP!" so clearly they aren't enamoured of Vista
either.
As to how many people are affected by my choice, I'd say I help at least
20 people per month make a decision on a computer purchase (some of these
are on purchases of 10-50 computers) so I affect at least 100 computer
purchases a month directly, and problably 250 a month indirectly. So
that's at least 1200 a year. So yes, my opinion is important, and I'm
pushing my customers to stick with XP.
(Sorry I wasn't clearer on this.)
T
At 08:08 PM 26/06/2008, DHSinclair wrote:
Thane,
I would really love do shove some love toward MS, but, sadly, I am out of
love here.
I am looking a major money upgrades just to go to XP. But, it is on the
chopping block.
I live very happily on W2Ksp4, thank you. I know, UCan tell me to get on
with it.
My question is WHY?
I am still wondering about windown XP.
If you believe big corporate IT depts just deal with this stuff as
"business as usual" sorry.
Thane, it just does not happen.
I think I understand your operation. You are the single person that gets
to make the decision.
Fine. How many folk get affected by your choice?
Please write me back when your enterprise has >400K bodies using 'windows.'
And, you make your decision.
Perhaps you have lots of cash in the bank to cover contingencies.'
Yes, a bit of a shot, but not a big one, I hope.
Personally, MS deserves no "love" except for foisting it on all of us.
Yes, Windows is better than MS-DOS. But then, that is just me (and I can
take all the bad for admitting this!)
OK-hdw did not stay in track with MS. So what?
OK-I forgot the question.
Is my hdw decision dependent upon which OS I choose to use?
I certainly hope not. Certainly reads this way, however.............. :)
Best,
Duncan
At 19:17 06/26/2008 -0300, you wrote:
Well MS kept back 64 bit XP until Intel fixed their CPUs so that AMD
wouldn't have a big jump on Intel in that department - I'd think MS
would be expecting some love in return.
T
At 07:06 PM 26/06/2008, DHSinclair wrote:
Winterlight,
I does appear that "business" just does not support Vista. (yet).
I can not say I blame them (based on the vitriol I have read on this list.)
Even so. Why do you expect Intel and/or AMD to march in lock-step with
whatever S. Balmer dictates?
Intel/AMD does hardware. MS does software. We all know that there is
plenty of SW that works fine on the current/future hardware............?
Is this divided loyalty?
Is this about a bit of "fan-boy?"
I just do not understand your vent.
Best,
Duncan
At 08:55 06/26/2008 -0700, you wrote:
Reports: Intel to skip Vista upgrade
For any given release of Windows, there are companies that choose to
skip it. But when the company is Intel, it's a big deal.
Following a report Monday on the Inquirer, the New York Times reported
Wednesday that Intel's IT department "found no compelling case" for
upgrading. Ouch.
And that's despite the fact that it's been nearly seven years since XP
debuted. It's not a good thing, if your customers are electing to
stick with 7-year-old technology. (In fairness, XP did get a fairly
big update with Windows XP Service Pack 2, but even that is four years
old at this point.)
Microsoft, which once predicted businesses would adopt Vista at twice
the rate they moved to XP, has scaled back its ambitions and these
days talks a lot about how long the adoption curve is for businesses
when it comes to new operating systems.
