j., inline again............
At 13:39 11/28/2008 -0800, you wrote:
DHSinclair wrote:
j.,
Your comments are duly noted. Thank you. more inline below..........
At 06:12 11/24/2008 -0800, you wrote:
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Farenheight readings mean nothing in the computer world, give us some
Ceilcus numbers. There's 3 base temps CPU diode (real temp), CPU (mobo
temp under socket), case (mobo ambient temp). Then you get into the NB,
SB temps.
OK. Sorry about that. I was aware the collective has switched to
Celsius. ATM, my new test platform is currently doing 48C (buttoned-up).
I'll assume this may be idle because the only app running is Probe
II. The motherboard temp is 44C (buttoned-up. I do not see a 'case
temp', and I know nothing about the NB or SB ATM. This m/b seems to be
greatly stripped down from that vastly more expensive Pro, Deluxe, and
Wifi versions of the same m/b. The good news is that this m/b has
everything I believe I will need now and in the near future. Yes, these
boards may lack a boatload of other creature features, but I do not have
a use for those ATM. It is a P45x and uses DDR3. That is a good start
for me. And, it is (so far) stable as a brick.
Values in the 40's sound like CPU diode & CPU socket temps. Case, which is
a open air sensor on the mobo, would be 25-30C nominal range in a properly
cooled case in a <26C (80F) room based on my experience. There is no
other temp sensors listed in probe? Did you look in the BIOS to see if
Probe is reporting all the sensors? Asus has pretty consistently had
socket & open air sensors on their mobos.
OK. Then I will dig in the bios and see if there are more sensors to
possibly enable. AFAICS I see the same sensors in bios as Probe II also
displays. But, I am still peeking and playing with Probe II.
Do I understand correctly that you are NOT using Probe II? If so that may
be part of the issue since Probe II required AFAIK to support newer
mobo's. Basically whatever the Asus download area for that mobo says is
the version you should be using.
No. I am using the latest version of Probe II for the P5Q3 from Asus. Still
amazed at how much info it contains. And, yes, I still use the older (but
latest for the m/b's) version of Probe on my older Asus m/b's.
Probe sucks big time & no real replacement exists that is 1. free, 2.
reads all the sensors. Probe tends to prevent use of a networked
printer. Also Beware of AITuner, etc... apps as FUD.
I do hope we can agree to disagree. Yet again, LOL! I will accept your
review of Probe in any/all of it's permutations. I will accept that it
may have some trouble, but I have used it without trouble for the past 10
years without loosing a single PC to some 'faulty' display reading.
I do not run Probe 24/7; I run it when I am curious about basic power or
fan condition (w/o rebooting to bios).
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I think we are getting crossed signals here. Probe's functionality I
desire & value, it's Probe II (not old Probe) itself I have issues with
vs. how good Motherboard Monitor was (R.I.P. MBM). This is a major
personal peeve with me and the Rampage since Probe II & related support
drivers (which run even when probe is not) cause network printer issues
and is nothing more than a simple value reader/alarm.
OK. I understand. Hmm. Perhaps I may run into this also. I have not yet
installed a net printer stack on the new machine. I'll watch for this for
certain.
I used to like MBM also back in the days, but after it started to mature,
it just got way too complicated for me to set up; way too many chipset
specs to search out, and too many guesses about different fans in different
positions. Just me for sure! LOL! Probe made it simple again.
With MBM I had it sending Syslog data to my server reporting vital temps,
fan speeds, & voltages as well having it shutdown the PC when those values
went abnormal. Sadly 'nix get's better support than Windows for the
various non-standard ways mobo vendors handle their sensors. Been fighting
with SpeedFan trying to get it to read all my sensors without much luck
and Everest is better but moronic pricing levels, a project ongoing.
OK. Yes, I never went this far. I took the approach of getting cases that
ventilate well and just let the simple warning level shut the machine
off. I lowered the warning levels by 15% for a bit more margin.
Best,
Duncan
